That’s not even empirically true. At best, morality is the (really complicated) function relating “is” and “ought”—which means errors in the “is” can make vast differences to the consequent “ought”.
(For example, in the Americas a couple centuries ago, it was widely believed that black people were not capable of being successful and happy without supervision of white people, and it was consequently meet to own such people in the same way as livestock is owned.)
(For example, in the Americas a couple centuries ago, it was widely believed that black people were not capable of being successful and happy without supervision of white people, and it was consequently meet to own such people in the same way as livestock is owned.)
As much as I keep citing this as an example myself, I don’t think we’re literally talking about sole prior cause and posterior effect here.
Edit: To be precise, to a major extent, the causality is probably in the opposite direction—because treating people the way slaves were treated is wrong, those with a stake in the matter had it widely argued that the chattel slaves were not people in the proper sense of the word.
At best, morality is the (really complicated) function relating “is” and “ought”—which means errors in the “is” can make vast differences to the consequent “ought”.
You’re right; forgive my imprecision. But I doubt that people from the past could be said to be using the exactly the same function as us, nor even that I’m using the exact same function as you. It would just be too much coincidence.
I think I see the difficulty—my language is phrased in terms of an absolute morality to which all historical systems are approximations of varying accuracy. Do I correctly infer that you reject that concept? If so, I believe it reasonable to assume that the remaining confusion is a matter of phrasing.
In questions of morality, there’s nothing but the (really complicated) bottom line.
That’s not even empirically true. At best, morality is the (really complicated) function relating “is” and “ought”—which means errors in the “is” can make vast differences to the consequent “ought”.
(For example, in the Americas a couple centuries ago, it was widely believed that black people were not capable of being successful and happy without supervision of white people, and it was consequently meet to own such people in the same way as livestock is owned.)
As much as I keep citing this as an example myself, I don’t think we’re literally talking about sole prior cause and posterior effect here.
A fair point, to be sure.
Edit: To be precise, to a major extent, the causality is probably in the opposite direction—because treating people the way slaves were treated is wrong, those with a stake in the matter had it widely argued that the chattel slaves were not people in the proper sense of the word.
You’re right; forgive my imprecision. But I doubt that people from the past could be said to be using the exactly the same function as us, nor even that I’m using the exact same function as you. It would just be too much coincidence.
I think I see the difficulty—my language is phrased in terms of an absolute morality to which all historical systems are approximations of varying accuracy. Do I correctly infer that you reject that concept? If so, I believe it reasonable to assume that the remaining confusion is a matter of phrasing.
Yes.