1.) Clearly state the problems that need to be worked on, and provide reasonable guidance as to where and how they might be worked on 2.) Notice what work is already being done on the problems, and who is doing it (avoid reinventing the wheel/not invented here syndrome; EA is especially guilty of this) 3.) Actively develop useful connections between 2.) 4.) Measure engagement (resource flows) and progress
I posted some parts of my current visions of 1) and 2) here and here. I think these, along with the Gaia Network design that we proposed recently (the Gaia Network is not “A Plan” in its entirety, but a significant portion of it), address @Vaniver’s and @kave’s points about realism and sociological/psychological viability.
The platform for generating the plan would need to be more-open-than-not, and should be fairly bleeding edge—incorporating prediction markets, consensus seeking (polis), eigenkarma etc
I think this is a mistake to import “democracy” at the vision level. Vision is essentially a very high-level plan, a creative engineering task. These are not decided by averaging opinions. “If you want to kill any idea in the world, get a committee working on it.” Also, Deutsch was writing about this in “The Beginning of Infinity” in the chapter about democracy.
We should aggregate desiderata and preferences (see “Preference Aggregation as Bayesian Inference”), but not decisions (plans, engineering designs, visions). These should be created by a coherent creative entity. The same idea is evident in the design of Open Agency Architecture.
we’re lacking meaningful 3rd party measurement
If I understand correctly what you are gesturing at here, I think that some high-level agents in the Gaia Network should become a trusted gauge for the “planetary health metrics” we care about.
I think this is a mistake to import “democracy” at the vision level. Vision is essentially a very high-level plan, a creative engineering task. These are not decided by averaging opinions. “If you want to kill any idea in the world, get a committee working on it.” Also, Deutsch was writing about this in “The Beginning of Infinity” in the chapter about democracy.
We should aggregate desiderata and preferences (see “Preference Aggregation as Bayesian Inference”), but not decisions (plans, engineering designs, visions). These should be created by a coherent creative entity. The same idea is evident in the design of Open Agency Architecture.
Democracy is a mistake, for all of the obvious reasons. As is the belief amongst engineers that every problem is an engineering problem :P
We have a whole bunch of tools going mostly unused and unnoticed that could, plausibly, enable a great deal more trust and collaboration than is currently possible.
We have a whole bunch of people both thinking about and working on the polycrisis already.
My proposal is that we’re far more likely to achieve our ultimate goal—a future we’d like to live in—if we simply do our best to empower, rather than direct, others.
I expect attempts to direct, no matter how brilliant the plan or the mind(s) behind it, are likely to fail. For all the obvious reasons.
(caveat: yes AGI changes this, but it changes everything. My whole point is that we need to keep the ship from sinking long enough for AGI to take the wheel)
I posted some parts of my current visions of 1) and 2) here and here. I think these, along with the Gaia Network design that we proposed recently (the Gaia Network is not “A Plan” in its entirety, but a significant portion of it), address @Vaniver’s and @kave’s points about realism and sociological/psychological viability.
I think this is a mistake to import “democracy” at the vision level. Vision is essentially a very high-level plan, a creative engineering task. These are not decided by averaging opinions. “If you want to kill any idea in the world, get a committee working on it.” Also, Deutsch was writing about this in “The Beginning of Infinity” in the chapter about democracy.
We should aggregate desiderata and preferences (see “Preference Aggregation as Bayesian Inference”), but not decisions (plans, engineering designs, visions). These should be created by a coherent creative entity. The same idea is evident in the design of Open Agency Architecture.
If I understand correctly what you are gesturing at here, I think that some high-level agents in the Gaia Network should become a trusted gauge for the “planetary health metrics” we care about.
Democracy is a mistake, for all of the obvious reasons.
As is the belief amongst engineers that every problem is an engineering problem :P
We have a whole bunch of tools going mostly unused and unnoticed that could, plausibly, enable a great deal more trust and collaboration than is currently possible.
We have a whole bunch of people both thinking about and working on the polycrisis already.
My proposal is that we’re far more likely to achieve our ultimate goal—a future we’d like to live in—if we simply do our best to empower, rather than direct, others.
I expect attempts to direct, no matter how brilliant the plan or the mind(s) behind it, are likely to fail. For all the obvious reasons.
(caveat: yes AGI changes this, but it changes everything. My whole point is that we need to keep the ship from sinking long enough for AGI to take the wheel)