Individual intelligence differences are NOT thought of as okay. Try introducing yourself on a random message board with each of these and see what happens:
Hi, I’m Joe and the main thing I’m good at is art.
Hi, I’m Joe and I’m proud of my Native American ancestry.
Hi, I’m Joe and my IQ is 170.
One of these is not like the other two. How about:
Hi, I’m Joe and I’m good at 3D games (or some other activity that is representative of high IQ scores). This replaces the apparent status seeking with a proper introduction.
This statement strikes you as having a major, obvious difference. If it’s so obvious, then there probably really is a difference, right? Well obviousness has a lot in common with first impressions—they’re both instant, they’re both compelling, and they both happen so fast that when you first experience them, there hasn’t been any time to scrutinize them yet.
This “one of these is not like the other” reaction IS the experience of bias. By arguing that one statement is different, you have underlined your bias.
One way to determine whether there is any bias in the way people interpret mentions of giftedness and IQ is to attempt to conceive of contexts in which they’ll be perceived neutrally. If this is a lot harder than presenting things like gender and race, then this may indicate bias.
Try coming up with some contexts in which a mention of IQ or giftedness will be perceived neutrally—without “cheating” by applying an opposite bias (like wrapping it in a sugar coating by telling people you’re an example of a Mensan who isn’t elitist for instance) or suppressing the information (for instance waiting until someone asks, or hiding it from everyone except your developmental psychologist) and without using code words to obscure it (Because evidently, my question is not always being interpreted as a request to know a way to talk about it directly.) If you have to hide the information to avoid being chided, that’s basically the definition of oppression, and how do you get oppression without bias?
What I want to know is “How do you freely tell people you’re gifted or have a high IQ in a way that is entirely neutral?”
What I want to know is “How do you freely tell people you’re gifted or have a high IQ in a way that is entirely neutral?”
Not sure why you ignored my original example. As I said, you tell them that you are good at something that implies high IQ score, but is not perceived as status seeking. “Hi, I’m Joe and the main thing I’m good at is art.” is not the same as “I draw better than 99.9998% of all people”, which would be the equivalent of “my IQ is 170”, and would also be perceived as status seeking.
That doesn’t qualify as an example of how to talk about IQ and giftedness. You’re talking about 3D games. Your suggestion was to hide the fact that you’re talking about IQ by talking in code. That’s why I ignored the example—I didn’t see that you were trying to present me with a neutral IQ statement.
I’m still waiting to see whether anyone can come up with a way to freely tell people you’re gifted or have a high IQ in a way that sounds neutral—without cheating in any way. Without sugar coating, without having to hide it, and without using code words to obscure it (Because evidently, my question was not interpreted as a request to know a way to talk about it directly.) . (:
One of these is not like the other two. How about:
Hi, I’m Joe and I’m good at 3D games (or some other activity that is representative of high IQ scores). This replaces the apparent status seeking with a proper introduction.
You make my point better than I do.
This statement strikes you as having a major, obvious difference. If it’s so obvious, then there probably really is a difference, right? Well obviousness has a lot in common with first impressions—they’re both instant, they’re both compelling, and they both happen so fast that when you first experience them, there hasn’t been any time to scrutinize them yet.
This “one of these is not like the other” reaction IS the experience of bias. By arguing that one statement is different, you have underlined your bias.
One way to determine whether there is any bias in the way people interpret mentions of giftedness and IQ is to attempt to conceive of contexts in which they’ll be perceived neutrally. If this is a lot harder than presenting things like gender and race, then this may indicate bias.
Try coming up with some contexts in which a mention of IQ or giftedness will be perceived neutrally—without “cheating” by applying an opposite bias (like wrapping it in a sugar coating by telling people you’re an example of a Mensan who isn’t elitist for instance) or suppressing the information (for instance waiting until someone asks, or hiding it from everyone except your developmental psychologist) and without using code words to obscure it (Because evidently, my question is not always being interpreted as a request to know a way to talk about it directly.) If you have to hide the information to avoid being chided, that’s basically the definition of oppression, and how do you get oppression without bias?
What I want to know is “How do you freely tell people you’re gifted or have a high IQ in a way that is entirely neutral?”
Not sure why you ignored my original example. As I said, you tell them that you are good at something that implies high IQ score, but is not perceived as status seeking. “Hi, I’m Joe and the main thing I’m good at is art.” is not the same as “I draw better than 99.9998% of all people”, which would be the equivalent of “my IQ is 170”, and would also be perceived as status seeking.
That doesn’t qualify as an example of how to talk about IQ and giftedness. You’re talking about 3D games. Your suggestion was to hide the fact that you’re talking about IQ by talking in code. That’s why I ignored the example—I didn’t see that you were trying to present me with a neutral IQ statement.
I’m still waiting to see whether anyone can come up with a way to freely tell people you’re gifted or have a high IQ in a way that sounds neutral—without cheating in any way. Without sugar coating, without having to hide it, and without using code words to obscure it (Because evidently, my question was not interpreted as a request to know a way to talk about it directly.) . (:
‘Hi, I’m Joe and I’m a smart guy.’