My assumption that the suggestions were supposed to teach the same skills probably comes from the fact that this is a post labeled Exercise, and so should be intended to teach a set of skills (though my use of the word “equivalent” probably did come from a textual mixup). And I don’t think “getting laid at a bar” is the skill that was meant, although I am not as sure of that as I was—it’s not that getting laid at a bar is so terrible, but I wouldn’t call it a “Rationality Skill.”
And it appears that Will agrees with me that the purpose should not be to get laid, since he says “No one ever talked about a female equivalent of PUA.” I suppose I could write a whole page about how he missed the other interpretation, and how that made the thread go downhill into insane troll logic, but that seems like a lot of work and I’d probably only get 18 or so upvotes :P
I agree with your points, though it seems to me that they’re not about the part of the conversation that bothered me (which was the unfortunate exploitation of a hanging word for political reasons, not by you). I’m having trouble understanding your meaning. I mentioned your name a lot in my comment but mostly because I was trying to figure out how Alicorn’s comment could be interpreted as a response to yours. (It mostly can’t.) In my view your original comment was by no means an example of poor reasoning, and I apologize that I didn’t make this clearer.
My assumption that the suggestions were supposed to teach the same skills probably comes from the fact that this is a post labeled Exercise, and so should be intended to teach a set of skills (though my use of the word “equivalent” probably did come from a textual mixup). And I don’t think “getting laid at a bar” is the skill that was meant, although I am not as sure of that as I was—it’s not that getting laid at a bar is so terrible, but I wouldn’t call it a “Rationality Skill.”
And it appears that Will agrees with me that the purpose should not be to get laid, since he says “No one ever talked about a female equivalent of PUA.” I suppose I could write a whole page about how he missed the other interpretation, and how that made the thread go downhill into insane troll logic, but that seems like a lot of work and I’d probably only get 18 or so upvotes :P
I agree with your points, though it seems to me that they’re not about the part of the conversation that bothered me (which was the unfortunate exploitation of a hanging word for political reasons, not by you). I’m having trouble understanding your meaning. I mentioned your name a lot in my comment but mostly because I was trying to figure out how Alicorn’s comment could be interpreted as a response to yours. (It mostly can’t.) In my view your original comment was by no means an example of poor reasoning, and I apologize that I didn’t make this clearer.
Above I argue that this is an equivalent of at least one part of PUA, and explain the subtext behind why it seems skeevier.
(I recommend not making bulk links like this. Especially not bulk links with that acronym. Downvotes are inevitable.)