I agree that China’s success is evidence this procedure is overkill. Edit: this comment has some potential caveats though—seems the US is probably doing worse than China in terms of ensuring delivery people aren’t infected.
wait a day, and the virus will be dead to an extent that you can’t get infected.
I linked to a meta-analysis finding that the virus can remain infectious on surfaces for much longer than a day, especially in colder temperatures.
And bleach is [...] bad for your lungs
Good to know. Hopefully wearing a mask will help with that.
2) The viral load in a cough droplet is rarely as high as 105 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3591312/ and the review only said 9 days for viral loads of 107 , which is silly. The paper in question - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00430-004-0219-0 - also incubated the virus in a suspension, instead of leaving it to dry. And much of the literature is talking about stool samples rather than cough drops. Lastly, the infectiousness of a droplet that hasn’t dried, which isn’t relevant to the current discussion, still depends on the surface. You’re talking about cardboard, which will perform similarly to paper, and the results noted in the review are clear that it’s not a very hospitable surface
3) Typical masks don’t filter out chemical fumes. Odor respirators will help, but unless that’s specifically what you have, your masks aren’t doing anything to help reduce how much of the bleach fumes are reaching your lungs
The viral load in a cough droplet is rarely as high as 10^5, and the review only said 9 days for viral loads of 10^7, which is silly.
Silly, eh? What if it’s not a cough droplet? What if the delivery person is picking their nose?
You’re talking about cardboard, which will perform similarly to paper, and the results noted in the review are clear that it’s not a very hospitable surface
The review cites a study which allegedly found that SARS persisted 4-5 days on paper. Paper may very well be an inhospitable surface, but that fact does not seem clear from the review...
We do clothes etc same but wear mask spray box all over with 3 per cent peroxide wait a minute put box inside a tight tied plastic bag.wait 14 days.wear mask take out wash soap water all contents.wash mask clothes shower.does this make sense.I have immune 2 problems. Mail is a pain as hav do same and often trash mail we put boxes after 14 days then open in bag tie take dump,
Do you have citations for these claims?
I agree that China’s success is evidence this procedure is overkill. Edit: this comment has some potential caveats though—seems the US is probably doing worse than China in terms of ensuring delivery people aren’t infected.
I linked to a meta-analysis finding that the virus can remain infectious on surfaces for much longer than a day, especially in colder temperatures.
Good to know. Hopefully wearing a mask will help with that.
1) That wasn’t a meta analysis, it was a review.
2) The viral load in a cough droplet is rarely as high as 105 - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3591312/ and the review only said 9 days for viral loads of 107 , which is silly. The paper in question - https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00430-004-0219-0
- also incubated the virus in a suspension, instead of leaving it to dry. And much of the literature is talking about stool samples rather than cough drops. Lastly, the infectiousness of a droplet that hasn’t dried, which isn’t relevant to the current discussion, still depends on the surface. You’re talking about cardboard, which will perform similarly to paper, and the results noted in the review are clear that it’s not a very hospitable surface
3) Typical masks don’t filter out chemical fumes. Odor respirators will help, but unless that’s specifically what you have, your masks aren’t doing anything to help reduce how much of the bleach fumes are reaching your lungs
Thanks, fixed.
Silly, eh? What if it’s not a cough droplet? What if the delivery person is picking their nose?
The review cites a study which allegedly found that SARS persisted 4-5 days on paper. Paper may very well be an inhospitable surface, but that fact does not seem clear from the review...
If you wash your hands after handling the box, again, none of this matters.
We do clothes etc same but wear mask spray box all over with 3 per cent peroxide wait a minute put box inside a tight tied plastic bag.wait 14 days.wear mask take out wash soap water all contents.wash mask clothes shower.does this make sense.I have immune 2 problems. Mail is a pain as hav do same and often trash mail we put boxes after 14 days then open in bag tie take dump,