My first impression of cryo (documentation): My introduction to cryo was in a cartoon as a child—the bad guys were freezing themselves and using the blood of children to live forever. I felt it was terrifying and horribly unfair that the bad guys could live forever and very creepy that there were so many frozen dead bodies.
horribly unfair that the bad guys could live forever
There’s a common attitude that eternal life is a very special prize—something a few great heroes might deserve, and if you seek it out you’re basically claiming to be a deity or something impossibly high-status along those lines. I have no idea where that comes from; it’s like someone proposed advances in agriculture and people went “But famines are part of life!”.
I guess that if you survive and other people don’t, it instinctively pattern-matches to you causing their death. Even if it does not make sense, and you know it. Maybe it’s a broken algorithm for determining outside view—if you go somewhere with a group of people, you return and they are dead, you should expect other people to suspect you; therefore you’d rather show some extremely strong self-destructive emotion to convince them game-theoretically that you did not benefit from that outcome.
If we get immortality, we can expect a lot of survivor guilt. Also, it will seriously ruin the just world hypothesis, if some people will get 3^^^3 more utilons just for the fact they were born in the right era and did not die randomly a few years sooner.
Hmmm. These are really good points. I do feel guilty about the idea of living a really long time while a lot of others don’t. That may be what triggered my first big objection—that you could save a lot of people with that money. Now I wonder if that objection was a rationalization of some type of survivor’s guilt. I think that this is likely. Very good point. Now I’m wondering what the nature of this survivor’s guilt is, for me.
I still feel survivor’s guilt, actually. Even though it’s not attached to a specific objection any longer—the objection about saving starving children has been rebutted.
My first impression of cryo (documentation): My introduction to cryo was in a cartoon as a child—the bad guys were freezing themselves and using the blood of children to live forever. I felt it was terrifying and horribly unfair that the bad guys could live forever and very creepy that there were so many frozen dead bodies.
There’s a common attitude that eternal life is a very special prize—something a few great heroes might deserve, and if you seek it out you’re basically claiming to be a deity or something impossibly high-status along those lines. I have no idea where that comes from; it’s like someone proposed advances in agriculture and people went “But famines are part of life!”.
Possibly related: Survivor guilt
I guess that if you survive and other people don’t, it instinctively pattern-matches to you causing their death. Even if it does not make sense, and you know it. Maybe it’s a broken algorithm for determining outside view—if you go somewhere with a group of people, you return and they are dead, you should expect other people to suspect you; therefore you’d rather show some extremely strong self-destructive emotion to convince them game-theoretically that you did not benefit from that outcome.
If we get immortality, we can expect a lot of survivor guilt. Also, it will seriously ruin the just world hypothesis, if some people will get 3^^^3 more utilons just for the fact they were born in the right era and did not die randomly a few years sooner.
Hmmm. These are really good points. I do feel guilty about the idea of living a really long time while a lot of others don’t. That may be what triggered my first big objection—that you could save a lot of people with that money. Now I wonder if that objection was a rationalization of some type of survivor’s guilt. I think that this is likely. Very good point. Now I’m wondering what the nature of this survivor’s guilt is, for me.
I still feel survivor’s guilt, actually. Even though it’s not attached to a specific objection any longer—the objection about saving starving children has been rebutted.
New objection—Survivor’s Guilt
That’s already seen as a fallacy isn’t it?
Well, more relevantly it’s seemingly assumed by most of the population.
Haha, good point. We should not see it as high-status. If it works, it’s something everyone should get. That’s a really good observation.
What cartoon was this?
No, seriously, what cartoon is this. It sounds awesome.