It was a rhetorical question. You do have a way of knowing that you haven’t thought of anything new: The idea of cryonics has been around for over half a century. Brilliant and creative minds have explored the argument territory quite thoroughly. You should expect to bring nothing new to the table.
Rant mode engaged.
Your post won’t help us learn how to convince women to sign up for cryonics. The sample size isn’t random and it’s certainly not big enough to draw any useful conclusions from. We’ll just replay some tired replies to some tired objections. At best, it will teach us how to convince Epiphany to sign up.
Most importantly, is there any other area of debate where we use different arguments to convince women? It would be bizarre. This is especially true for a topic like cryonics, where “convincing” mostly involves fielding objections. If you want to convince people, then learn about the topic. When someone brings up a specific objection, you can use your knowledge to construct a reply that’s convincing, informative, and true. It works no matter one’s gender.
Most importantly, is there any other area of debate where we use different arguments to convince women? It would be bizarre.
You seem to be ignorant of what values are. From the point of view of a rationalist, they are axioms, and slippery ones at that as they are axioms elucidated by the individual introspecting his (or her) own emotional reactions to various theoretical situations.
Arguments to convince someone to DO something are tailored to fit the individual being convinced.
Trivial examples of using different arguments to convince women vs men (on average) include arguments to see a particular movie (chick flick vs boobsploitation or violence).
Brilliant and creative minds have explored the argument territory quite thoroughly. You should expect to bring nothing new to the table.
Also, if you guys have already figured everything out, then why is convincing women perceived as extra hard? Obviously something is missing, and that element might be anything from not knowing all of the objections women will make to not having good enough persuasive skills to a seemingly unrelated difference between the genders (maybe it’s that women don’t read as much about technology or that they go to doctors more often and have learned more about the flaws in medical technology, leading to distrust) - but without opening up a line of communication about it, and experimenting to see what kinds of ideas emerge, how are you ever going to make testable guesses about what the missing piece(s) is/are?
The idea of cryonics has been around for over half a century. Brilliant and creative minds have explored the argument territory quite thoroughly.
Why would you have thought I would have known that?
All I know is that I wasn’t convinced, and people didn’t know how to convince women, and a bunch of people voted in my poll that they thought this was a good topic idea.
You really don’t think anyone here is interested in getting practice? Just about everyone here has family members. I imagine they’ll want them to survive.
It was a rhetorical question. You do have a way of knowing that you haven’t thought of anything new: The idea of cryonics has been around for over half a century. Brilliant and creative minds have explored the argument territory quite thoroughly. You should expect to bring nothing new to the table.
Rant mode engaged.
Your post won’t help us learn how to convince women to sign up for cryonics. The sample size isn’t random and it’s certainly not big enough to draw any useful conclusions from. We’ll just replay some tired replies to some tired objections. At best, it will teach us how to convince Epiphany to sign up.
Most importantly, is there any other area of debate where we use different arguments to convince women? It would be bizarre. This is especially true for a topic like cryonics, where “convincing” mostly involves fielding objections. If you want to convince people, then learn about the topic. When someone brings up a specific objection, you can use your knowledge to construct a reply that’s convincing, informative, and true. It works no matter one’s gender.
Rant mode disengaged.
You seem to be ignorant of what values are. From the point of view of a rationalist, they are axioms, and slippery ones at that as they are axioms elucidated by the individual introspecting his (or her) own emotional reactions to various theoretical situations.
Arguments to convince someone to DO something are tailored to fit the individual being convinced.
Trivial examples of using different arguments to convince women vs men (on average) include arguments to see a particular movie (chick flick vs boobsploitation or violence).
Also, if you guys have already figured everything out, then why is convincing women perceived as extra hard? Obviously something is missing, and that element might be anything from not knowing all of the objections women will make to not having good enough persuasive skills to a seemingly unrelated difference between the genders (maybe it’s that women don’t read as much about technology or that they go to doctors more often and have learned more about the flaws in medical technology, leading to distrust) - but without opening up a line of communication about it, and experimenting to see what kinds of ideas emerge, how are you ever going to make testable guesses about what the missing piece(s) is/are?
Having a detailed map doesn’t mean that a particular route isn’t going to be arduous and fraught with potential missteps that send you down a cliff.
All the more reason to practice on me, then.
Am I correct in reading you to be saying that it’s pretty much a clear case in cryonics’ favor?
If you were to die in a month, with sufficient warning to line up deathbed cryosuspension and all, how likely do you see some form of revival?
Why would you have thought I would have known that?
All I know is that I wasn’t convinced, and people didn’t know how to convince women, and a bunch of people voted in my poll that they thought this was a good topic idea.
You really don’t think anyone here is interested in getting practice? Just about everyone here has family members. I imagine they’ll want them to survive.