I think the many downvotes are somewhat unfair. I guess the main reason is that the very strong statement in the headline that “the orthogonality thesis is wrong” will of course provoke resistance. I think your reasoning that absent other goals, power-seeking is a default goal is interesting and deserves a fair discussion. Whether the orthogonality thesis is right or wrong is not really the issue here in my opinion.
An absence of goals is only one of many starting points that leads to the same power-seeking goal in my opinion. So I actually believe that Orthogonality Thesis is wrong, but I agree that it is not obvious given my short description. I expected to provoke discussion, but it seems that I provoked resistance 😅
Anyway there are ongoing conversations here and here, it seems there is a common misunderstanding of Pascal’s Mugging significance. Feel free to join!
I think the many downvotes are somewhat unfair. I guess the main reason is that the very strong statement in the headline that “the orthogonality thesis is wrong” will of course provoke resistance. I think your reasoning that absent other goals, power-seeking is a default goal is interesting and deserves a fair discussion. Whether the orthogonality thesis is right or wrong is not really the issue here in my opinion.
Thank you for your support!
An absence of goals is only one of many starting points that leads to the same power-seeking goal in my opinion. So I actually believe that Orthogonality Thesis is wrong, but I agree that it is not obvious given my short description. I expected to provoke discussion, but it seems that I provoked resistance 😅
Anyway there are ongoing conversations here and here, it seems there is a common misunderstanding of Pascal’s Mugging significance. Feel free to join!