One perspective would be to say that when Ben read the sequences at 13, he adopted a suboptimal paradigm and later moved on from that paradigm. From the perspective of Kegan’s framework, adopting that paradigm was however likely very good for Ben’s development as it allowed him to go from Kegan 3 to Kegan 4 which is an important step in development. Not everyone moves from Kegan 3 to Kegan 4 and many people need a good university education to make the transition. Making that step at 13 is fast cognitive development.
I think this would be more smooth to understand if you defined what Kegan 3 means before you use the term in this paragraph. It left me struggling a bit to follow, but I’m pretty tired at the moment so maybe that’s just on me.
It was a very interesting read and I think it’s a good frame to look at things.
I’m a bit puzzled that one who read (if meant as “learned”) the sequences would be left at Kegan 4, if I understood correctly and all there is to Kegan 5 is to be able to engage with other school of thoughts, then the sequences seem to hammer on that point pretty often. I’ve taken as a personal rule to allow people to try persuade me of their reasons/school of thoughts specifically because it was one of the main points of the sequences.
I think this would be more smooth to understand if you defined what Kegan 3 means before you use the term in this paragraph.
Kegan stages are a complex concept and I don’t think I can do a good job for getting the concept accross by writing a one-paragraph definition.
I’m a bit puzzled that one who read (if meant as “learned”) the sequences would be left at Kegan 4
That’s not the claim I’m making.
You can read the sequences in many different ways and depending on where you start it will have a different outcome. If you read it in a state where you are at Kegan’s stage 4 and have an established paradigm according to which you can reason you get into a situation where you are faced with two competing paradigms. It’s not surprising if that can have the effect of going “There’s not one paradigm that has all the answers, different paradigms have their use at different points in time” and opening up to more different
I think this would be more smooth to understand if you defined what Kegan 3 means before you use the term in this paragraph. It left me struggling a bit to follow, but I’m pretty tired at the moment so maybe that’s just on me.
It was a very interesting read and I think it’s a good frame to look at things.
I’m a bit puzzled that one who read (if meant as “learned”) the sequences would be left at Kegan 4, if I understood correctly and all there is to Kegan 5 is to be able to engage with other school of thoughts, then the sequences seem to hammer on that point pretty often. I’ve taken as a personal rule to allow people to try persuade me of their reasons/school of thoughts specifically because it was one of the main points of the sequences.
Kegan stages are a complex concept and I don’t think I can do a good job for getting the concept accross by writing a one-paragraph definition.
That’s not the claim I’m making.
You can read the sequences in many different ways and depending on where you start it will have a different outcome. If you read it in a state where you are at Kegan’s stage 4 and have an established paradigm according to which you can reason you get into a situation where you are faced with two competing paradigms. It’s not surprising if that can have the effect of going “There’s not one paradigm that has all the answers, different paradigms have their use at different points in time” and opening up to more different