Systematic downvoting of users (that aren’t spambots or obvious trolls) is wrong. [pollid:600]
Systematic downvoting of users (that aren’t spambots or obvious trolls) is against community norms (i.e. people should already know it’s wrong). [pollid:601]
It would be nice if admins had a way of automatically detecting such behavior (e.g. running an SQL query to pick up patterns of mass-downvote) [pollid:602]
By the way, dear LessWrong reader, have you ever been a victim of mass downvotes? [pollid:603]
And have you engaged in it? [pollid:604]
(not that I think such polls should have power of law, it’s just nice to have an idea of the opinion of the community)
I think if I’d notice that I always tend to downvote some person’s comments when I see them, I might end up looking at their history for comments I’m likely to also disfavor. But I wouldn’t downvote their comments just because they’re the one who made them; I’d judge each comment individually. I don’t know if this is against community norms.
Two features of this poll make me doubt its usefulness:
You don’t define ‘systematic’. I’ve gone through user histories and looked at lots of their old comments, doling out lots of positive or negative karma in a short period of time based on the quality of the old comments. But I have no idea whether that makes me a ‘systematic downvoter’ or ‘mass downvoter’ in the sense people here are worried about. Your last question is particularly ambiguous, since it’s not clear whether ‘e.g. looking if a user has a history of other bad comments’ is meant to be an example of ‘systematic’ or of ‘not systematic’ down-voting.
You don’t allow people to express agnostic or highly uncertain views about anything. You allow ‘tends toward X’ and ‘don’t care’, but not ‘I don’t know’. I think I gave overly extreme answers because I do care about this issue and about whether it’s harming the community, but I don’t have a clear view yet of whether it’s net harmful.
I wasn’t logged in when I initially filled out this survey, and the cookies in my browser might have been acting funny for whatever reason. So, I may have mistakenly filled out this form twice. If I did without anonymity, ignore my duplicate result. If it was anonymous, and it appears a user did enter twice, and the results are the same, then ignore one of them, as it could easily be from me.
I disagree about having this problem solved by moderators. Changing the karma system would be preferable i.e. by removing the downvotes or having downvotes only affect the individual post but not on the total karma of the user.
Time for a poll!
Systematic downvoting of users (that aren’t spambots or obvious trolls) is wrong. [pollid:600]
Systematic downvoting of users (that aren’t spambots or obvious trolls) is against community norms (i.e. people should already know it’s wrong). [pollid:601]
It would be nice if admins had a way of automatically detecting such behavior (e.g. running an SQL query to pick up patterns of mass-downvote) [pollid:602]
By the way, dear LessWrong reader, have you ever been a victim of mass downvotes? [pollid:603]
And have you engaged in it? [pollid:604]
(not that I think such polls should have power of law, it’s just nice to have an idea of the opinion of the community)
I’ve done a minor version of mass downvoting—I normally let mildly annoying comments go, but I’ll downvote them if they’re from one particular poster.
I think if I’d notice that I always tend to downvote some person’s comments when I see them, I might end up looking at their history for comments I’m likely to also disfavor. But I wouldn’t downvote their comments just because they’re the one who made them; I’d judge each comment individually. I don’t know if this is against community norms.
Two features of this poll make me doubt its usefulness:
You don’t define ‘systematic’. I’ve gone through user histories and looked at lots of their old comments, doling out lots of positive or negative karma in a short period of time based on the quality of the old comments. But I have no idea whether that makes me a ‘systematic downvoter’ or ‘mass downvoter’ in the sense people here are worried about. Your last question is particularly ambiguous, since it’s not clear whether ‘e.g. looking if a user has a history of other bad comments’ is meant to be an example of ‘systematic’ or of ‘not systematic’ down-voting.
You don’t allow people to express agnostic or highly uncertain views about anything. You allow ‘tends toward X’ and ‘don’t care’, but not ‘I don’t know’. I think I gave overly extreme answers because I do care about this issue and about whether it’s harming the community, but I don’t have a clear view yet of whether it’s net harmful.
Have to revise my poll answer. 92% of my comments from the past month were downvoted today.
I reported “never been mass downvoted”, but in the past few hours 92% of my comments since January 29th were downvoted :-/.
I wasn’t logged in when I initially filled out this survey, and the cookies in my browser might have been acting funny for whatever reason. So, I may have mistakenly filled out this form twice. If I did without anonymity, ignore my duplicate result. If it was anonymous, and it appears a user did enter twice, and the results are the same, then ignore one of them, as it could easily be from me.
So, non-logged in users are allowed to vote to polls? (Does anyone know if that’s deliberate?)
It’s not true, at least normally. If you are logged out and press “Vote”, you are asked to log in.
I disagree about having this problem solved by moderators. Changing the karma system would be preferable i.e. by removing the downvotes or having downvotes only affect the individual post but not on the total karma of the user.