but has many free variables, so that the structure of reality doesn’t constrain it completely. This forces us to make decisions, and since these are not about factual states of the world (eg what the definition of “lie” REALLY is, in God’s dictionary) we have nothing to make those decisions on except consequences
Scott, I appreciate the appearance of effort, but I’m afraid I just can’t muster the willpower to engage if you’re going to motivatedly play dumb like this. (I have a memoir that I need to be writing instead.) You know goddamned well I’m not appealing to God’s dictionary. I addressed this shit in “Where to Draw the Boundaries?”. I worked really really hard on that post. My prereaders got it. Said got it. 82 karma points says the audience got it. If the elephant in your brain thinks it can get away with stringing me along like this when I have the math and you don’t, it should think again.
In the incredibly unlikely event that you’re actually this dumb, I’ll try to include some more explanations in my forthcoming memoir (working title: “‘I Tell Myself to Let the Story End’; Or, A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning; Or, The Story About That Time Everyone I Used to Trust Insisted on Playing Dumb About the Philosophy of Language in a Way That Was Optimized for Confusing Me Into Cutting My Dick Off (Independently of the Empirical Facts Determining Whether or Not Cutting My Dick Off Is a Good Idea) and Wouldn’t Even Cut It Out Even After I Spent Five Months and Thousands of Words Trying to Explain the Mistake in Exhaustive Detail Including Dozens of Links to Their Own Writing; Or, We Had an Entire Sequence About This, You Lying Motherfuckers”).
EDIT: Want to talk to you further before I try to explain my understanding of your previous work on this, will rewrite this later.
The short version is I understand we disagree, I understand you have a sophisticated position, but I can’t figure out where we start differing and so I don’t know what to do other than vomit out my entire philosophy of language and hope that you’re able to point to the part you don’t like. I understand that may be condescending to you and I’m sorry.
I absolutely deny I am “motivatedly playing dumb” and I enter this into the record as further evidence that we shouldn’t redefine language to encode a claim that we are good at ferreting out other people’s secret motivations.
(Scott and I had a good conversation today. I think I need to write a followup post (working title: “Instrumental Categories, Wireheading, and War”) explaining in more detail exactly what distinction I’m making when I say I want to consider some kinds of appeals-to-consequences invalid while still allowing, e.g. “Requiring semicolons in your programming language will have the consequence of being less convenient for users who forget them.” The paragraphs in “Where to Draw the Boundaries?” starting with “There is an important difference [...]” are gesturing at the distinction, but perhaps not elaborating enough for readers who don’t already consider it “obvious.”)
Scott, I appreciate the appearance of effort, but I’m afraid I just can’t muster the willpower to engage if you’re going to motivatedly play dumb like this. (I have a memoir that I need to be writing instead.) You know goddamned well I’m not appealing to God’s dictionary. I addressed this shit in “Where to Draw the Boundaries?”. I worked really really hard on that post. My prereaders got it. Said got it. 82 karma points says the audience got it. If the elephant in your brain thinks it can get away with stringing me along like this when I have the math and you don’t, it should think again.
In the incredibly unlikely event that you’re actually this dumb, I’ll try to include some more explanations in my forthcoming memoir (working title: “‘I Tell Myself to Let the Story End’; Or, A Hill of Validity in Defense of Meaning; Or, The Story About That Time Everyone I Used to Trust Insisted on Playing Dumb About the Philosophy of Language in a Way That Was Optimized for Confusing Me Into Cutting My Dick Off (Independently of the Empirical Facts Determining Whether or Not Cutting My Dick Off Is a Good Idea) and Wouldn’t Even Cut It Out Even After I Spent Five Months and Thousands of Words Trying to Explain the Mistake in Exhaustive Detail Including Dozens of Links to Their Own Writing; Or, We Had an Entire Sequence About This, You Lying Motherfuckers”).
EDIT: Want to talk to you further before I try to explain my understanding of your previous work on this, will rewrite this later.
The short version is I understand we disagree, I understand you have a sophisticated position, but I can’t figure out where we start differing and so I don’t know what to do other than vomit out my entire philosophy of language and hope that you’re able to point to the part you don’t like. I understand that may be condescending to you and I’m sorry.
I absolutely deny I am “motivatedly playing dumb” and I enter this into the record as further evidence that we shouldn’t redefine language to encode a claim that we are good at ferreting out other people’s secret motivations.
(Scott and I had a good conversation today. I think I need to write a followup post (working title: “Instrumental Categories, Wireheading, and War”) explaining in more detail exactly what distinction I’m making when I say I want to consider some kinds of appeals-to-consequences invalid while still allowing, e.g. “Requiring semicolons in your programming language will have the consequence of being less convenient for users who forget them.” The paragraphs in “Where to Draw the Boundaries?” starting with “There is an important difference [...]” are gesturing at the distinction, but perhaps not elaborating enough for readers who don’t already consider it “obvious.”)