There was someone on LessWrong a few years ago who would respond to all negative criticism, however damning, by saying brightly,”Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate hearing other views!” (If you recognise who I’m talking about, please don’t mention his name. It was some years ago and he may have moved on.)
The NVC practitioners’ responses here seem to me to have a like nature. You could program a chatbot to say things like “I hear that you feel strongly about [insert their words], but it’s not clear to me why you feel that way. My preference would be for you to talk about your perspective instead of making factually-structured statements.”
Being a chatbot does not necessarily feel like being a chatbot.
Probably obvious from context, but worth saying explicitly: The person in question, despite responding in that positive-sounding manner, never actually seemed to make any substantial change in behaviour in response to the criticism.
“I hear that you feel strongly about [insert their words], but it’s not clear to me why you feel that way. My preference would be for you to talk about your perspective instead of making factually-structured statements.”
To me that sentence doesn’t look like it passes the Ideological Turing Test.
Huh? Have you seen Valentine’s reply to PDV in this very thread:
I get the impression that there’s something here that matters a lot to you. I can’t yet tell what it is though. It sounds like you feel really unsafe when reading Unreal’s self-reveal, and that you need others to recognize some kind of danger you see in it. If that’s right, then I don’t yet see what the danger you see is, but I’d like to. My preference would be for you to talk about your perspective (“I feel”, “I think”, “When I encounter X, I experience Y”, etc.) instead of making factually-structured statements about “most people”, because I find it easier to understand where you’re coming from if you talk from your perspective.
By the way, Richard’s analogy with chatbots is also spot on. The first chatbot (ELIZA) was inspired by Carl Rogers.
There was someone on LessWrong a few years ago who would respond to all negative criticism, however damning, by saying brightly,”Thanks for the feedback! I really appreciate hearing other views!” (If you recognise who I’m talking about, please don’t mention his name. It was some years ago and he may have moved on.)
The NVC practitioners’ responses here seem to me to have a like nature. You could program a chatbot to say things like “I hear that you feel strongly about [insert their words], but it’s not clear to me why you feel that way. My preference would be for you to talk about your perspective instead of making factually-structured statements.”
Being a chatbot does not necessarily feel like being a chatbot.
Probably obvious from context, but worth saying explicitly: The person in question, despite responding in that positive-sounding manner, never actually seemed to make any substantial change in behaviour in response to the criticism.
To me that sentence doesn’t look like it passes the Ideological Turing Test.
Huh? Have you seen Valentine’s reply to PDV in this very thread:
By the way, Richard’s analogy with chatbots is also spot on. The first chatbot (ELIZA) was inspired by Carl Rogers.
Exactly. My hypothetical quote was written as a condensation of that very paragraph.