Why isn’t this forum more interested in engineering the aspect of human cognition we call rationality?
You are begging too many questions, Annoyance. This forum is interested in both science and practical skill (“engineering”) or rationality. It’s just not at all clear how to approach this problem. Since there were numerousposts concerned with e.g. testing of people/skills/wins, your continued provocations implying that we are not interested in reasonable things are just obnoxious lies.
It is a failing of this community that your comments restating claims like this are not voted down to minus infinity.
I don’t think this means anything. Surely someone begging the question is committing a single fallacy, and there’s usually only about one opportunity for it in a simple argument—do you mean he’s assuming several different things that he’s setting out to prove? You didn’t even cite an argument above.
“It’s just not at all clear how to approach this problem.”
Of course there are ways to approach it. Known ways; tried and true ways. Among them are ‘logical analysis’ and ‘the scientific method’, and there is remarkable little interest in applying either of those to the problem. Or perhaps there is great interest but little ability. All we know for sure is that results aren’t being produced, and there’s no functioning capacity to resolve that.
Of course there are ways to approach it. Known ways; tried and true ways.
Sounds like you are the man for the job!
Or perhaps there is great interest but little ability.
There is great interest. And in many aspects of rationality, there is already lots of science to feed on, to adopt for a new purpose. Meet decision theory, experimental study of biases, cognitive science, good philosophy. In the gaps, it’s just too hard to even ask the proper questions, let alone systematically study answers on them.
But yes, we are few, not very dedicated or competent. Nobody expects great miracles to come directly from the current sorry state of affairs. The idea is to growsomething greater.
Any person with a spark can light the cooking fire.
“There is great interest.”
When a task has few requirements that are widely available, the fact that it is not being done is strong evidence that intention and interest to do it are rare.
You say there is great interest. The first stages of the process are simple and easy, and require abilities that are distributed widely. The first stages are not being completed; they don’t even seem to be attempted. Ergo, I conclude that your assertion is incorrect.
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You are begging too many questions, Annoyance. This forum is interested in both science and practical skill (“engineering”) or rationality. It’s just not at all clear how to approach this problem. Since there were numerous posts concerned with e.g. testing of people/skills/wins, your continued provocations implying that we are not interested in reasonable things are just obnoxious lies.
It is a failing of this community that your comments restating claims like this are not voted down to minus infinity.
I don’t think this means anything. Surely someone begging the question is committing a single fallacy, and there’s usually only about one opportunity for it in a simple argument—do you mean he’s assuming several different things that he’s setting out to prove? You didn’t even cite an argument above.
“It’s just not at all clear how to approach this problem.”
Of course there are ways to approach it. Known ways; tried and true ways. Among them are ‘logical analysis’ and ‘the scientific method’, and there is remarkable little interest in applying either of those to the problem. Or perhaps there is great interest but little ability. All we know for sure is that results aren’t being produced, and there’s no functioning capacity to resolve that.
Sounds like you are the man for the job!
There is great interest. And in many aspects of rationality, there is already lots of science to feed on, to adopt for a new purpose. Meet decision theory, experimental study of biases, cognitive science, good philosophy. In the gaps, it’s just too hard to even ask the proper questions, let alone systematically study answers on them.
But yes, we are few, not very dedicated or competent. Nobody expects great miracles to come directly from the current sorry state of affairs. The idea is to grow something greater.
“Sounds like you are the man for the job!”
Any person with a spark can light the cooking fire.
“There is great interest.”
When a task has few requirements that are widely available, the fact that it is not being done is strong evidence that intention and interest to do it are rare.
You say there is great interest. The first stages of the process are simple and easy, and require abilities that are distributed widely. The first stages are not being completed; they don’t even seem to be attempted. Ergo, I conclude that your assertion is incorrect.