You keep making the same statements without integrating my previous arguments into your thinking yet fail to expose them as self contradicting or fallacious. This makes it very frustrating to point them out to you yet again. Does not feel worth my while frankly. I gave you an argument but I am tired of trying to give you an understanding.
You seem willing to come back and make about any random comment in an effort to have the last word and that is what I am willing to give to you. But you would be deluding yourself into thinking that this would equate to you thereby somehow be proven right. No—I am simply tired of dancing in circles with you. So, if you feel like dancing solo some more, be my guest.
You seem willing to come back and make about any random comment in an effort to have the last word and that is what I am willing to give to you.
My ‘last word’ was here. It is an amicable hat tip and expansion on a reasonable perspective that you provide. How much FAI thinking sounds like a “Rapture of the Nerds”. It also acknowledges our difference in perspective. While we both imagine evolutionary selection pressures as a ‘force’, you see it as one to be embraced and defined by while I see it as one that must be mastered or else.
We’re not going to come closer to agreement than that because we have a fundamentally different moral philosophy which gives us different perspectives on the whole field.
I can empathise. I have often found myself in situations in which I am attempting discourse with someone who appears to me at least to be incapable or unwilling to understand what I am saying. It is particularly frustrating when the other is supporting the position more favoured by the tribe in question and they can gain support while needing far less rigour and coherency.
You keep making the same statements without integrating my previous arguments into your thinking yet fail to expose them as self contradicting or fallacious. This makes it very frustrating to point them out to you yet again. Does not feel worth my while frankly. I gave you an argument but I am tired of trying to give you an understanding.
You seem willing to come back and make about any random comment in an effort to have the last word and that is what I am willing to give to you. But you would be deluding yourself into thinking that this would equate to you thereby somehow be proven right. No—I am simply tired of dancing in circles with you. So, if you feel like dancing solo some more, be my guest.
A side note: these two are not the only reasons to not be persuaded by arguments, although naturally they are the easiest to point out.
My ‘last word’ was here. It is an amicable hat tip and expansion on a reasonable perspective that you provide. How much FAI thinking sounds like a “Rapture of the Nerds”. It also acknowledges our difference in perspective. While we both imagine evolutionary selection pressures as a ‘force’, you see it as one to be embraced and defined by while I see it as one that must be mastered or else.
We’re not going to come closer to agreement than that because we have a fundamentally different moral philosophy which gives us different perspectives on the whole field.
My apologies for failing to see that—did not mean to be antagonizing—just trying to be honest and forthright about my state of mind :-)
I can empathise. I have often found myself in situations in which I am attempting discourse with someone who appears to me at least to be incapable or unwilling to understand what I am saying. It is particularly frustrating when the other is supporting the position more favoured by the tribe in question and they can gain support while needing far less rigour and coherency.