In what way are you attempting to counter my argument?
By ‘harmful’ I mean detrimental to procreation probability.
I assume that highly fanatic religious people are likely to be in an environment with members of the opposite sex who are relatively equal in level of “indoctrination” and therefore are able to reproduce.
though some religious practices are arguably detrimental to reproduction ability.
By ‘remove themselves from the genepool’ I mean, of course failure to produce offspring.
But please do let me know if you meant something else entirely.
Yes, we are completely talking past each other. In my framing “harmful” relates to number and intensity of suffering-moments, not reproductive success. I’m still kind of boggling that you think that’s relevant. You are correct to look to religion for archetypal information hazards; certain conceptions of sin, for example. Unlike Omega, sin cares about your decision theory; it applies to you if and only if you know it does, and the news is always bad. It’s a cognitive event horizon. The Motif of Harmful Sensation is completely damn irrelevant. Information hazards don’t make you go bleeble-bleeble-bleeble, they make you lie awake at night.
To be honest, I wasn’t making sufficient effort to engage with you; I was venting irritation with this whole subthread, which largely consists of the emotionally privileged giving each other high-fives for getting lucky with their absurdity heuristic. You briefly became the embodiment of my irritation by describing the fear of hell as “mildly harmful”, which it sort of isn’t when you measure harm in actual caused fear. Some thoughts are black, and go nowhere, and can teach nothing, and any energy used to think them pours out of the universe and is gone. But I’m tapping out before I make a fool of myself further.
The Typical Mind Fallacy is strong with this one.
It’s a good thing that isn’t a mortal sin! Oh no wait.
In what way are you attempting to counter my argument?
By ‘harmful’ I mean detrimental to procreation probability. I assume that highly fanatic religious people are likely to be in an environment with members of the opposite sex who are relatively equal in level of “indoctrination” and therefore are able to reproduce. though some religious practices are arguably detrimental to reproduction ability.
By ‘remove themselves from the genepool’ I mean, of course failure to produce offspring.
But please do let me know if you meant something else entirely.
Yes, we are completely talking past each other. In my framing “harmful” relates to number and intensity of suffering-moments, not reproductive success. I’m still kind of boggling that you think that’s relevant.
You are correct to look to religion for archetypal information hazards; certain conceptions of sin, for example. Unlike Omega, sin cares about your decision theory; it applies to you if and only if you know it does, and the news is always bad. It’s a cognitive event horizon. The Motif of Harmful Sensation is completely damn irrelevant. Information hazards don’t make you go bleeble-bleeble-bleeble, they make you lie awake at night.
To be honest, I wasn’t making sufficient effort to engage with you; I was venting irritation with this whole subthread, which largely consists of the emotionally privileged giving each other high-fives for getting lucky with their absurdity heuristic. You briefly became the embodiment of my irritation by describing the fear of hell as “mildly harmful”, which it sort of isn’t when you measure harm in actual caused fear. Some thoughts are black, and go nowhere, and can teach nothing, and any energy used to think them pours out of the universe and is gone. But I’m tapping out before I make a fool of myself further.
I’ll agree that there was a mutual misunderstanding, my point has failed to be made. Ok. ;)