By “naive” I just mean calorie restriction without any other consideration.
Well, of course. I never said or implied calories were the whole ball game. You’re conflating weight loss and nutrition throughout.
A low-carb diet is not just a matter of eating what you normally eat, minus the carbohydrates.
No, but you’d be hard pressed to make up those calories by eating proteins. That is quite the point.
It’s an empirical fact that some foods are more filling than others and keep you feeling full for a longer period of time, even if the number of calories consumed is the same.
I’ve mentioned satiation as a real issue that ought to be addressed by any rational diet plan.
But, again, it isn’t the aim that a diet should involve no hunger when compared to your current meal plan. That is just plain silly and irrational.
Losing weight is like any other pursuit—it requires the expenditure of resources: Will power, focus, effort, energy, discipline. It may diminish your capacity to pursue other things for a time. It doesn’t mean you have to be bedridden or incapacitated. Again, any other pursuit is like this: Working long days on a big project at work, training for a taxing athletic event, studying for difficult classes and exams, etc. Dieting is a significant project to take on.
There seems to be this idea floating around that you can diet, lose lots of weight, and not have it consume some bandwidth in your life. BS. There are some great, rational hacks available, but it takes some sustained work to lose weight. There isn’t anyway around that.
You’re conflating weight loss and nutrition throughout.
Short term, the body is resilient enough that you can go on a crash diet to quickly drop a few pounds without worrying about nutrition. On the other hand, nutrition is an essential consideration in any weight-loss plan that’s going to last many months. That’s why I associate the two.
But, again, it isn’t the aim that a diet should involve no hunger when compared to your current meal plan. That is just plain silly and irrational.
Certain approaches purport to do this very thing by means of suppressing the appetite so that one naturally eats less. Consider, for example, the Shangri-La diet.
I will grant that if one wants to lose 2+ pounds a week over a long period of time, then the pangs of hunger are unavoidable.
There seems to be this idea floating around that you can diet, lose lots of weight, and not have it consume some bandwidth in your life. BS.
Agreed. This is especially true if there’s a psychological component to the initial weight gain. For example, stress eaters will have to either avoid stress or figure out a new coping mechanism if they want to lose weight and maintain the weight loss.
Well, of course. I never said or implied calories were the whole ball game. You’re conflating weight loss and nutrition throughout.
No, but you’d be hard pressed to make up those calories by eating proteins. That is quite the point.
I’ve mentioned satiation as a real issue that ought to be addressed by any rational diet plan.
But, again, it isn’t the aim that a diet should involve no hunger when compared to your current meal plan. That is just plain silly and irrational.
Losing weight is like any other pursuit—it requires the expenditure of resources: Will power, focus, effort, energy, discipline. It may diminish your capacity to pursue other things for a time. It doesn’t mean you have to be bedridden or incapacitated. Again, any other pursuit is like this: Working long days on a big project at work, training for a taxing athletic event, studying for difficult classes and exams, etc. Dieting is a significant project to take on.
There seems to be this idea floating around that you can diet, lose lots of weight, and not have it consume some bandwidth in your life. BS. There are some great, rational hacks available, but it takes some sustained work to lose weight. There isn’t anyway around that.
Short term, the body is resilient enough that you can go on a crash diet to quickly drop a few pounds without worrying about nutrition. On the other hand, nutrition is an essential consideration in any weight-loss plan that’s going to last many months. That’s why I associate the two.
Certain approaches purport to do this very thing by means of suppressing the appetite so that one naturally eats less. Consider, for example, the Shangri-La diet.
I will grant that if one wants to lose 2+ pounds a week over a long period of time, then the pangs of hunger are unavoidable.
Agreed. This is especially true if there’s a psychological component to the initial weight gain. For example, stress eaters will have to either avoid stress or figure out a new coping mechanism if they want to lose weight and maintain the weight loss.