I don’t think, that my intuition should be backed by, or crushed by (doesn’t matter which, really) - more mathematics.
I think my intuition should be backed or crushed by some experimental evidence. Which we probably have.
It seems to me, that no relativistic time slowdown is observed in distant galaxies. What are implications for the GR I really don’t care very much. Theories in Physics are downstream of how the reality is.
It seems to me, that no relativistic time slowdown is observed in distant galaxies.
If you are correct then cosmologists either (1) are very stupid or (2) are knowingly in possession of strong evidence against a pretty much universally accepted, and central, part of physics but haven’t said anything about it.
I am extremely confident that #1 and #2 are both false.
Of course this isn’t scientific evidence that you’re wrong, and if for some reason anything of substance hung on this then it would be appropriate to look more carefully at the evidence and the theory and the mathematics and see what’s going on. And if you really think you’ve got good evidence that relativity is wrong then you should do the work and collect your Nobel prize. For my part, simply on the basis of #1 and #2 (plus the absence of any reason to think you’re so astoundingly smart that it would be unsurprising for all the world’s cosmologists to have simply missed something that you see intuitively) I am confident enough that you’re wrong that I feel no inclination to go to that effort to confirm that the received wisdom hasn’t just yet been overthrown.
I am not very eager to fight against, or for the GR. I don’t care that much about this. It’s a low priority suitable maybe for my occasional blog post and a crosslink to here, where debates are quite long.
Still, no apparent time slowdown in those fast moving galaxies, or some apparent time slowdown—is a bit interesting topic.
As I mentioned earlier, you could count the number of cycles of a laser light beam between two events. For this reason, the apparent slowdown has to be proportional to the redshift. This is a fairly general argument that should work for more theories than just general relativity.
In order for there not to be an apparent slowdown, something really wierd would have to be going on.
At one moment, nothing can be faster than light, the next moment there is a billion of faster than light galaxies.
The next moment, it’s okay, they are not faster than light, only the space is replicating itself between us an them.
Exactly. If you have two ants on a rubber band and you stretch the rubber band, the time derivative of the distance between the ants may be larger than twice the maximum speed at which an ant can walk, but that’s not due to the ants walking so there’s no paradox.
I am not that sure, that there is no paradox. As I see, it can easily be. There is a smaller chance that there isn’t any paradox, after all. Still possible.
I wish, I could find an internet site, which would address those problems. I can’t.
I don’t think, that my intuition should be backed by, or crushed by (doesn’t matter which, really) - more mathematics.
I think my intuition should be backed or crushed by some experimental evidence. Which we probably have.
It seems to me, that no relativistic time slowdown is observed in distant galaxies. What are implications for the GR I really don’t care very much. Theories in Physics are downstream of how the reality is.
If you are correct then cosmologists either (1) are very stupid or (2) are knowingly in possession of strong evidence against a pretty much universally accepted, and central, part of physics but haven’t said anything about it.
I am extremely confident that #1 and #2 are both false.
Of course this isn’t scientific evidence that you’re wrong, and if for some reason anything of substance hung on this then it would be appropriate to look more carefully at the evidence and the theory and the mathematics and see what’s going on. And if you really think you’ve got good evidence that relativity is wrong then you should do the work and collect your Nobel prize. For my part, simply on the basis of #1 and #2 (plus the absence of any reason to think you’re so astoundingly smart that it would be unsurprising for all the world’s cosmologists to have simply missed something that you see intuitively) I am confident enough that you’re wrong that I feel no inclination to go to that effort to confirm that the received wisdom hasn’t just yet been overthrown.
I am not very eager to fight against, or for the GR. I don’t care that much about this. It’s a low priority suitable maybe for my occasional blog post and a crosslink to here, where debates are quite long.
Still, no apparent time slowdown in those fast moving galaxies, or some apparent time slowdown—is a bit interesting topic.
Isn’t it?
As I mentioned earlier, you could count the number of cycles of a laser light beam between two events. For this reason, the apparent slowdown has to be proportional to the redshift. This is a fairly general argument that should work for more theories than just general relativity.
In order for there not to be an apparent slowdown, something really wierd would have to be going on.
We have seen weirder things going on. A superluminal galaxy is quite weird, isn’t it?
At one moment, nothing can be faster than light, the next moment there is a billion of faster than light galaxies.
The next moment, it’s okay, they are not faster than light, only the space is replicating itself between us an them.
The next moment the space is growing exponentially. What is not that weird, we are accustomed to exponentials when replicating is involved.
Nothing is really weird, except the logic must not be violated. Everything else can be weird as it wants to.
Exactly. If you have two ants on a rubber band and you stretch the rubber band, the time derivative of the distance between the ants may be larger than twice the maximum speed at which an ant can walk, but that’s not due to the ants walking so there’s no paradox.
I am not that sure, that there is no paradox. As I see, it can easily be. There is a smaller chance that there isn’t any paradox, after all. Still possible.
I wish, I could find an internet site, which would address those problems. I can’t.
Can you?