It’s not as if these things were made up beforehand, people were helped and it is worthwhile to mention.
If you said may instead of will it wouldn’t set off the alarm bells. “Will” is a promise. If what you mean is “other people have reported experiencing these effects”, I’d recommend saying that instead. The list of “you will” points looks like advertising at best and culty at worst.
Honestly ingive, there’s not a massive amount wrong with what you’re saying that I can see, except that it’s all dressed up to the nines in semi-mystical language and presented as an epiphany or conversion rather than as a sensible set of guidelines.
Imagine I linked to a webpage that just said:
“Try to feel good about living life rationally. Know thyself—question why you want things. Question whether the things you want are really necessary for your happiness. Identify your most meaningful goals. Remember that you’re part of something bigger than yourself. Try to focus on living for the benefit of others. Keep thinking this way and you’ll probably feel more content and less worried about trivial things, and get more done.”
I guarantee I wouldn’t be getting all the flak you have here. People wouldn’t be saying “snake-oil” or “cult” or “evangelism” or “woo”. What they would probably be saying is “duh”. But as far as I can see that’s your basic message, shorn of all the neuro-Spinozism spangles and fluff and dodgy-sounding claims of eternal happiness.
As I said before, I’m glad that things have “clicked” for you and that you, presumably, feel better about your life than you did formerly. I just don’t see why you need to wrap a core of nice, basic bits of life advice in ten pounds of shiny wrapping paper. Are you afraid people won’t take you seriously if you don’t make your ideas seem complex and revolutionary? Honestly, the opposite is probably true. Profound truths about the ideal way to live are usually pretty simple. Not necessarily easy, by any means, but definitely simple.
I still highly recommend that you listen to the audio with headphones in a relaxed way as a form of meditation, Tiffany, you will understand more of what this is about and that it is really an epiphany or conversion. If you at least give me the benefit of the doubt and do that I can trust that you took the time to investigate this to its fullest potential.
I don’t think you did do the Steps, though. You probably froze at Step 2 and deflected everything and simply read it as information to process, rather than to update your beliefs (epistemic rationality), it’s not usually easy for us to accept emotions. Listen to the audio and read this emotional intelligence guide and I can reassure you that you will have a deeper understanding what this is about. I’m not trying to tell you anything or convince you, on the contrary, I am trying to make you question yourself and what you are emotionally invested in and how it’s limiting your potential. But I don’t know how. So I guess I have to convince you to think for yourself! Makes no sense and it’s a paradox, but hint, you don’t right now, or maybe :)
It’s very hard because most of LessWrongers are in death spiral, whether affective or not, the utility function of said death spiral includes rejecting these types of opportunities. It doesn’t really matter what I say. I can only say this and try my way of convincing you to let go of your false beliefs and irrationality, really. It’s so astonishing how so many can be irrational.
I’m simply asking you to 1) be open-minded 2) do the steps and the audio while being open-minded.
I’ve answered so many arguments and debunked so many of the users here for their nonsense, for them, it all boiled down to objective evidence, neuroimaging. That’s very expensive and our understanding of our brain is still very small. Having to answer these irrelevant questions proves my point that many are here for intellectual entertainment rather than in a serious effort, investigate why the world is the way it is—why I am, and how I can change it?
Snake-oil, cult, evengalism, woo. These are all irrational crying wolf arguments by irrational people. I hope you’re not and that someone reading this really gives it an honest try.
If you said may instead of will it wouldn’t set off the alarm bells. “Will” is a promise. If what you mean is “other people have reported experiencing these effects”, I’d recommend saying that instead. The list of “you will” points looks like advertising at best and culty at worst.
It’s a way of communicating, it’s not meant to be that serious and nitpicked to figure out the smallest “flaws”. That’s probably one time waste of yours. If not, my fault. It’s will most, then “you will”, which does not imply any specific, but most. Vague.
Honestly ingive, there’s not a massive amount wrong with what you’re saying that I can see, except that it’s all dressed up to the nines in semi-mystical language and presented as an epiphany or conversion rather than as a sensible set of guidelines.
Rationality is beautiful, so is consistency, the consistent patterns which has brought us about. It’s literally Awesome. There is nothing which a caveman which is transported to modern days NYC will say but be speechless and maybe “Awe” “Beauty” “Divine” “Love” to describe it when he returns home to his cave. Limitations of language are here, that’s why you have to visualize. That’s why the steps might be limiting. It’s about You. Your subjective experience. Your consciousness. All you, not me and no collective.
Imagine I linked to a webpage that just said:
“Try to feel good about living life rationally. Know thyself—question why you want things. Question whether the things you want are really necessary for your happiness. Identify your most meaningful goals. Remember that you’re part of something bigger than yourself. Try to focus on living for the benefit of others. Keep thinking this way and you’ll probably feel more content and less worried about trivial things, and get more done.”
That’s not steps. Everyone thinks that everyone will be comforted by it, no matter how irrational they are, no matter how much they resist reality.
I guarantee I wouldn’t be getting all the flak you have here. People wouldn’t be saying “snake-oil” or “cult” or “evangelism” or “woo”. What they would probably be saying is “duh”. But as far as I can see that’s your basic message, shorn of all the neuro-Spinozism spangles and fluff and dodgy-sounding claims of eternal happiness.
So I should change, rather than the flak:ers? Should I or you change? Which is the variable in the question if not undoubtedly your subjective experience? I’m telling you to think for yourself. The fluff is a big deal because you make it, you’re talking sooo much out of your own lens you’re unable to see beyond it, until now.
As I said before, I’m glad that things have “clicked” for you and that you, presumably, feel better about your life than you did formerly. I just don’t see why you need to wrap a core of nice, basic bits of life advice in ten pounds of shiny wrapping paper. Are you afraid people won’t take you seriously if you don’t make your ideas seem complex and revolutionary? Honestly, the opposite is probably true. Profound truths about the ideal way to live are usually pretty simple. Not necessarily easy, by any means, but definitely simple.
My neural activity is equally you as it is me, the same for you, there is no separation, the more that are in line with reality, then I am in line, the “I” which is not referenced to the practical me, my subjective experience.
I’m happy to answer any more questions which you would have. But try the audio and the steps with a sincere effort in improving yourself and emotionally resonating with the consistent patterns which have brought us about.
If you said may instead of will it wouldn’t set off the alarm bells. “Will” is a promise. If what you mean is “other people have reported experiencing these effects”, I’d recommend saying that instead. The list of “you will” points looks like advertising at best and culty at worst.
Honestly ingive, there’s not a massive amount wrong with what you’re saying that I can see, except that it’s all dressed up to the nines in semi-mystical language and presented as an epiphany or conversion rather than as a sensible set of guidelines.
Imagine I linked to a webpage that just said:
“Try to feel good about living life rationally. Know thyself—question why you want things. Question whether the things you want are really necessary for your happiness. Identify your most meaningful goals. Remember that you’re part of something bigger than yourself. Try to focus on living for the benefit of others. Keep thinking this way and you’ll probably feel more content and less worried about trivial things, and get more done.”
I guarantee I wouldn’t be getting all the flak you have here. People wouldn’t be saying “snake-oil” or “cult” or “evangelism” or “woo”. What they would probably be saying is “duh”. But as far as I can see that’s your basic message, shorn of all the neuro-Spinozism spangles and fluff and dodgy-sounding claims of eternal happiness.
As I said before, I’m glad that things have “clicked” for you and that you, presumably, feel better about your life than you did formerly. I just don’t see why you need to wrap a core of nice, basic bits of life advice in ten pounds of shiny wrapping paper. Are you afraid people won’t take you seriously if you don’t make your ideas seem complex and revolutionary? Honestly, the opposite is probably true. Profound truths about the ideal way to live are usually pretty simple. Not necessarily easy, by any means, but definitely simple.
I still highly recommend that you listen to the audio with headphones in a relaxed way as a form of meditation, Tiffany, you will understand more of what this is about and that it is really an epiphany or conversion. If you at least give me the benefit of the doubt and do that I can trust that you took the time to investigate this to its fullest potential.
I don’t think you did do the Steps, though. You probably froze at Step 2 and deflected everything and simply read it as information to process, rather than to update your beliefs (epistemic rationality), it’s not usually easy for us to accept emotions. Listen to the audio and read this emotional intelligence guide and I can reassure you that you will have a deeper understanding what this is about. I’m not trying to tell you anything or convince you, on the contrary, I am trying to make you question yourself and what you are emotionally invested in and how it’s limiting your potential. But I don’t know how. So I guess I have to convince you to think for yourself! Makes no sense and it’s a paradox, but hint, you don’t right now, or maybe :)
It’s very hard because most of LessWrongers are in death spiral, whether affective or not, the utility function of said death spiral includes rejecting these types of opportunities. It doesn’t really matter what I say. I can only say this and try my way of convincing you to let go of your false beliefs and irrationality, really. It’s so astonishing how so many can be irrational.
I’m simply asking you to 1) be open-minded 2) do the steps and the audio while being open-minded.
I’ve answered so many arguments and debunked so many of the users here for their nonsense, for them, it all boiled down to objective evidence, neuroimaging. That’s very expensive and our understanding of our brain is still very small. Having to answer these irrelevant questions proves my point that many are here for intellectual entertainment rather than in a serious effort, investigate why the world is the way it is—why I am, and how I can change it?
Snake-oil, cult, evengalism, woo. These are all irrational crying wolf arguments by irrational people. I hope you’re not and that someone reading this really gives it an honest try.
Now let me answer your irrelevant questions, c’mon, get off it already. :`)
It’s a way of communicating, it’s not meant to be that serious and nitpicked to figure out the smallest “flaws”. That’s probably one time waste of yours. If not, my fault. It’s will most, then “you will”, which does not imply any specific, but most. Vague.
Rationality is beautiful, so is consistency, the consistent patterns which has brought us about. It’s literally Awesome. There is nothing which a caveman which is transported to modern days NYC will say but be speechless and maybe “Awe” “Beauty” “Divine” “Love” to describe it when he returns home to his cave. Limitations of language are here, that’s why you have to visualize. That’s why the steps might be limiting. It’s about You. Your subjective experience. Your consciousness. All you, not me and no collective.
That’s not steps. Everyone thinks that everyone will be comforted by it, no matter how irrational they are, no matter how much they resist reality.
So I should change, rather than the flak:ers? Should I or you change? Which is the variable in the question if not undoubtedly your subjective experience? I’m telling you to think for yourself. The fluff is a big deal because you make it, you’re talking sooo much out of your own lens you’re unable to see beyond it, until now.
My neural activity is equally you as it is me, the same for you, there is no separation, the more that are in line with reality, then I am in line, the “I” which is not referenced to the practical me, my subjective experience.
I’m happy to answer any more questions which you would have. But try the audio and the steps with a sincere effort in improving yourself and emotionally resonating with the consistent patterns which have brought us about.