Well, as we’re currently assuming a relativist framework, I’d say not offensive within certain cultural contexts.
“Normative” doesn’t mean “globally normative” here. It can also mean “culturally normative”. Cultures don’t just take positions on object-level positions, they also take meta-level positions that can be used to justify these object-level positions.
So, did we already reach the point where it’s all relative and culture-dependent, and subculture-relevant, etc. and the difference between normative offense and subjective offense disappears into indistinguishability? :-)
I was using subjectively offensive to mean personally offensive; that is subjectively offensive relative to a person. Normatively offensive here means offensive relative to a group. So they are distinct. Does this clear it up? I’m getting quite confused here: are you a cultural relativist or do you believe that morality is individual?
Relative. If you accept objective morality then the point becomes moot—there is no “normative” or “subjective”, there is just right and wrong.
How about them goats?
Well, as we’re currently assuming a relativist framework, I’d say not offensive within certain cultural contexts.
“Normative” doesn’t mean “globally normative” here. It can also mean “culturally normative”. Cultures don’t just take positions on object-level positions, they also take meta-level positions that can be used to justify these object-level positions.
So, did we already reach the point where it’s all relative and culture-dependent, and subculture-relevant, etc. and the difference between normative offense and subjective offense disappears into indistinguishability? :-)
I was using subjectively offensive to mean personally offensive; that is subjectively offensive relative to a person. Normatively offensive here means offensive relative to a group. So they are distinct. Does this clear it up? I’m getting quite confused here: are you a cultural relativist or do you believe that morality is individual?
I don’t fit into pigeonholes well :-)