I fear I’m doing this wrong—I have a pretty large lump of respect for Zvi, and I’m honestly confused at what seems to be something important that I just don’t get. I don’t know if I skipped the thesis, so I’m stuck on the antithesis, or if it’s the case that this model of conversation doesn’t apply to my understanding, but people keep saying things that just don’t fit my experienced nor my considered decision-making process.
Historically, one of the best ways for me to figure out where I’m wrong is to make specific-enough statements for people to correct and tell me why. That’s not working very well on this topic, and I apologize for the churn.
It’s clear that this model doesn’t resonate with you, at all, despite your putting a lot of effort into it. I can think of any number of reasons for that, including my not being as clear as I’d like. From some of your other comments, it sounds to me like you’ve found a way to frame these issues that works reasonably for you, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
I’m a bit worried about speaking too much on behalf of Zvi (also apologies if my OC came across overly harsh). A couple concepts that seem relevant to me:
legibility. I think this is less relevant to this conversation than I first thought (based on your other comment). i.e I think there’s a failure mode than comes from saying “Ah, I can make N dollars an hour. Is playing this game worth N dollars?” And somey people feel like they then have to justify the cost, and the N dollars is very concrete and easy to point to, but the other things aren’t, so the system ends up punishing illegible things. I think this may sometimes be relevant even if one has internalized that money isn’t the only universal metric.
Choices are bad – comparing things to other things that might have been is often unhelpful or at least costly.
I fear I’m doing this wrong—I have a pretty large lump of respect for Zvi, and I’m honestly confused at what seems to be something important that I just don’t get. I don’t know if I skipped the thesis, so I’m stuck on the antithesis, or if it’s the case that this model of conversation doesn’t apply to my understanding, but people keep saying things that just don’t fit my experienced nor my considered decision-making process.
Historically, one of the best ways for me to figure out where I’m wrong is to make specific-enough statements for people to correct and tell me why. That’s not working very well on this topic, and I apologize for the churn.
It’s clear that this model doesn’t resonate with you, at all, despite your putting a lot of effort into it. I can think of any number of reasons for that, including my not being as clear as I’d like. From some of your other comments, it sounds to me like you’ve found a way to frame these issues that works reasonably for you, so I wouldn’t worry too much about it.
I’m a bit worried about speaking too much on behalf of Zvi (also apologies if my OC came across overly harsh). A couple concepts that seem relevant to me:
legibility. I think this is less relevant to this conversation than I first thought (based on your other comment). i.e I think there’s a failure mode than comes from saying “Ah, I can make N dollars an hour. Is playing this game worth N dollars?” And somey people feel like they then have to justify the cost, and the N dollars is very concrete and easy to point to, but the other things aren’t, so the system ends up punishing illegible things. I think this may sometimes be relevant even if one has internalized that money isn’t the only universal metric.
Choices are bad – comparing things to other things that might have been is often unhelpful or at least costly.