I think the kind of man having enough trouble that he’s willing to pay for a seduction course might be less astute and less realistic than average.
Wow. Just… wow.
So… anyone with poor social skills is “less astute and less realistic than average”?
I suspect that your estimation of how much “trouble” is “enough” is way off, and consequently, your estimation of how many men end up in the “willing to pay” category… and hence, whether you can reasonably compare those folks to the “average”.
I know a guy with a $20 million/year training business, that sells many products at $20 and under. That’s one guy, in a business with literally dozens of big names, and maybe a hundred small ones.
And that’s with his (and everybody else’s) products being massively pirated. Even men who aren’t willing to pay, are still getting the material. Especially since there is tons of it available for free as well via internet forums (though the free stuff is not always of the best quality).
Ironically, it is the men who are willing to pay the most, who are most likely to be exposed to high-quality, low-deception, maximally self-improvement oriented material. Sadly, this is because it’s (comparatively speaking) a niche market.
IOW, the average guy wants a quick fix—the dating equivalent of the little blue pill. And the only reason that more guys don’t buy the products (that I’ve heard from internet marketing discussions with the guys who sell them) is that their main point of sales resistance is admitting they “have enough trouble” to need the product!
In other words, the average guy wishes he were better at meeting/relating to women, but thinks (since all his friends are signaling that they’re studs) that he’s the only one having any trouble, and therefore must be a loser.
(Note: this is the average guy, meaning “most of the male population”, not “average guy that women already relate to”, which might explain why you think the average guy is below-average.)
Neil Strauss’s book (and Mystery’s show) have actually done men an enormous service by making it less “weird” to be interested in improving one’s skills at meeting or relating to women, so that interest in the subject isn’t necessarily signaling to your peers that you’re not as good as they’re all pretending to be.
In short, it’s only above average men (in success with women) who don’t wish, at some point in their lives, that they were better at meeting or relating to women.
(Do remember that while the marketing rhetoric tends to “have any woman/as many women you want”, this is so that the average purchaser will say to themselves, “well, I just want to be able to meet/talk to The One, so that ought to be really easy if I get this product, and if I can do more that’s just a bonus”.)
Ironically, it is the men who are willing to pay the most, who are most likely to be exposed to high-quality, low-deception, maximally self-improvement oriented material. Sadly, this is because it’s (comparatively speaking) a niche market.
I’m trying to imagine a marketing campaign—maybe “good sense at reasonable prices”. Seriously, is it that small a niche?
I’m trying to imagine a marketing campaign—maybe “good sense at reasonable prices”. Seriously, is it that small a niche?
High prices are a signal, in both directions. On the purchasing end, it signals commitment, and on the selling end, it signals good results.
(Btw, internet marketers routinely advise that charging more money means you get fewer customers, but there will be far fewer problem customers and you will enjoy working with them more. My own experiences support this hypothesis.)
Wow. Just… wow.
So… anyone with poor social skills is “less astute and less realistic than average”?
I suspect that your estimation of how much “trouble” is “enough” is way off, and consequently, your estimation of how many men end up in the “willing to pay” category… and hence, whether you can reasonably compare those folks to the “average”.
I know a guy with a $20 million/year training business, that sells many products at $20 and under. That’s one guy, in a business with literally dozens of big names, and maybe a hundred small ones.
And that’s with his (and everybody else’s) products being massively pirated. Even men who aren’t willing to pay, are still getting the material. Especially since there is tons of it available for free as well via internet forums (though the free stuff is not always of the best quality).
Ironically, it is the men who are willing to pay the most, who are most likely to be exposed to high-quality, low-deception, maximally self-improvement oriented material. Sadly, this is because it’s (comparatively speaking) a niche market.
IOW, the average guy wants a quick fix—the dating equivalent of the little blue pill. And the only reason that more guys don’t buy the products (that I’ve heard from internet marketing discussions with the guys who sell them) is that their main point of sales resistance is admitting they “have enough trouble” to need the product!
In other words, the average guy wishes he were better at meeting/relating to women, but thinks (since all his friends are signaling that they’re studs) that he’s the only one having any trouble, and therefore must be a loser.
(Note: this is the average guy, meaning “most of the male population”, not “average guy that women already relate to”, which might explain why you think the average guy is below-average.)
Neil Strauss’s book (and Mystery’s show) have actually done men an enormous service by making it less “weird” to be interested in improving one’s skills at meeting or relating to women, so that interest in the subject isn’t necessarily signaling to your peers that you’re not as good as they’re all pretending to be.
In short, it’s only above average men (in success with women) who don’t wish, at some point in their lives, that they were better at meeting or relating to women.
(Do remember that while the marketing rhetoric tends to “have any woman/as many women you want”, this is so that the average purchaser will say to themselves, “well, I just want to be able to meet/talk to The One, so that ought to be really easy if I get this product, and if I can do more that’s just a bonus”.)
I’m trying to imagine a marketing campaign—maybe “good sense at reasonable prices”. Seriously, is it that small a niche?
High prices are a signal, in both directions. On the purchasing end, it signals commitment, and on the selling end, it signals good results.
(Btw, internet marketers routinely advise that charging more money means you get fewer customers, but there will be far fewer problem customers and you will enjoy working with them more. My own experiences support this hypothesis.)