In order to have a comment policy in place, the act of pointing out language-to-avoid should have a standard and formal form which does not decrease the status of the pointed-out speaker, and perhaps even more importantly, should not increase the status of the pointer-outer.
I don’t know if this is possible, but that may be because I’ve been spending time in an environment which is particularly poisonous that way.
I will say that shaming people for ignorance has to be treated as intolerable.… without shaming people who don’t know better than to invoke that sort of shame.
Could you clarify: in order to encourage people to admit ignorance and take correction, you want to remove the perception of low status in taking it?
That sounds great, but I’m not sure how you get there. Out of people I believe to be mistaken or ignorant, I do respect more those who admit a mistake, than those who defensively generate huge threads full of denial and obfuscation, but in the case where I’m only skimming, I can’t often be sure if they’re wrong and it’s not worth my time to understand and judge.
I suppose you’re talking about social correctness and ignorance of expected behavior, and I was thinking of general correctness and ignorance.
I think there’s more status lost here in being incorrect than rude. So maybe discouraging offense-giving is a simpler problem.
In order to have a comment policy in place, the act of pointing out language-to-avoid should have a standard and formal form which does not decrease the status of the pointed-out speaker, and perhaps even more importantly, should not increase the status of the pointer-outer.
I don’t know if this is possible, but that may be because I’ve been spending time in an environment which is particularly poisonous that way.
I will say that shaming people for ignorance has to be treated as intolerable.… without shaming people who don’t know better than to invoke that sort of shame.
Could you clarify: in order to encourage people to admit ignorance and take correction, you want to remove the perception of low status in taking it?
That sounds great, but I’m not sure how you get there. Out of people I believe to be mistaken or ignorant, I do respect more those who admit a mistake, than those who defensively generate huge threads full of denial and obfuscation, but in the case where I’m only skimming, I can’t often be sure if they’re wrong and it’s not worth my time to understand and judge.
I suppose you’re talking about social correctness and ignorance of expected behavior, and I was thinking of general correctness and ignorance.
I think there’s more status lost here in being incorrect than rude. So maybe discouraging offense-giving is a simpler problem.