First, you should probably read the documents we refer to as the Sequences before you try to “correct” us.
Second,
A lot of things have you confused the territory being the map.
For example, that you exist, is a map.
That there is a being there, creature of some kind, it’s a map.
That you have a brain.
Every. Single. Word. Is A Map.
We all know this.
What is the territory?
Become silent of all thoughts, without using thoughts to manipulate or lie, neither using thoughts not to manipulate or lie.
You seem to be referring to meditative states. A lot of us do this, for various reasons. It really has little to do with rationality or arationality. Quieting down and dissociating from one’s thoughts certainly helps with clear thinking.
You think you are in control, thus the flow of life doesn’t flow effortlessly. :)
We mostly don’t believe in free will.
But it’s fine to let go, and be present in this moment, where there, you are, the territory, which is arational.
There will be no reason for reasoning or understanding, it is arational.
Just because you’re in a meditative state of thoughtlessness doesn’t mean that you’re doing anything beyond engaging with yet another set of maps. You’re just engaging with them nonverbally and intuitively.
It is always the case, whether you think about it or not. I can welcome you in to see for yourself, there’s a lot of beauty to be had.
Again, lots of us meditate, and we’re all about beauty. Not sure where you’re getting this perspective.
Please don’t be dogmatic. Try and see for yourself the possible truth which is right before your eyes, the possible truth that you do not exist, that you, and the possibility that everything else is a fiction. The fiction of the mind.
But you will still be to function, to be able to go to AI conferences and talk about the latest improvements, or talk decision theory or whatever else you have going on in your life. Because the belief that you will lose these things, by becoming more aware, is a trick of the ego. It’s highly improbable.
So go ahead, and see for yourself. Likely though you need to work on yourself, there’s nothing which is more important than the machine which does not come with an instruction manual. That is you. What you think is you. What I mean is the practical you.
I see buried in here a sales pitch for engaging in some kind of meditative or mindfulness practice. I admit that the foundational documents of Less Wrong don’t explicitly advocate for taking up meditation, but it’s a popular community topic.
First, you should probably read the documents we refer to as the Sequences before you try to “correct” us.
There’s plenty of others who disagree with you, I think, based on my experience writing with others here.
We all know this.
Yet a lot don’t really know it, by that I mean actually experiencing. (no absolute truth I get it, but let’s not make maps without understanding that we are)
You seem to be referring to meditative states. A lot of us do this, for various reasons. It really has little to do with rationality or arationality. Quieting down and dissociating from one’s thoughts certainly helps with clear thinking.
The meditative state is always the case, of course, we may practice meditation more intensely. Not being attached to thoughts is baseline in my opinion, if it can be done for oneself.
Just because you’re in a meditative state of thoughtlessness doesn’t mean that you’re doing anything beyond engaging with yet another set of maps.
That’s not correct during the meditative state? The state can be constant.
Again, lots of us meditate, and we’re all about beauty. Not sure where you’re getting this perspective.
I’m sure that’s likely, but there can be a lot more to meditation we think, trying to understand who we truly are and what is actually more likely to be the truth?
I see buried in here a sales pitch for engaging in some kind of meditative or mindfulness practice. I admit that the foundational documents of Less Wrong don’t explicitly advocate for taking up meditation, but it’s a popular community topic.
It’s increasing awareness so we can less be attached to the map of our maps and so forth. It’s like a layer on top of it all in my opinion, while simply being as it is.
You do realize that all of these ideas are in fact part of the foundation documents of this community?
I highly doubt so from my experience, although I can see why it should be. It’s so obvious that it is not obvious. Maybe.
First, you should probably read the documents we refer to as the Sequences before you try to “correct” us.
Second,
We all know this.
You seem to be referring to meditative states. A lot of us do this, for various reasons. It really has little to do with rationality or arationality. Quieting down and dissociating from one’s thoughts certainly helps with clear thinking.
We mostly don’t believe in free will.
Just because you’re in a meditative state of thoughtlessness doesn’t mean that you’re doing anything beyond engaging with yet another set of maps. You’re just engaging with them nonverbally and intuitively.
Again, lots of us meditate, and we’re all about beauty. Not sure where you’re getting this perspective.
I see buried in here a sales pitch for engaging in some kind of meditative or mindfulness practice. I admit that the foundational documents of Less Wrong don’t explicitly advocate for taking up meditation, but it’s a popular community topic.
There’s plenty of others who disagree with you, I think, based on my experience writing with others here.
Yet a lot don’t really know it, by that I mean actually experiencing. (no absolute truth I get it, but let’s not make maps without understanding that we are)
The meditative state is always the case, of course, we may practice meditation more intensely. Not being attached to thoughts is baseline in my opinion, if it can be done for oneself.
That’s not correct during the meditative state? The state can be constant.
I’m sure that’s likely, but there can be a lot more to meditation we think, trying to understand who we truly are and what is actually more likely to be the truth?
It’s increasing awareness so we can less be attached to the map of our maps and so forth. It’s like a layer on top of it all in my opinion, while simply being as it is.