Ease/speed of learning is the wrong metric to evaluate a language or writing system. How effective it is for communication among the literate is far more important. And that communication includes interesting hard-to-measure features such as social signaling, intentional ambiguity, and extensibility to new concepts.
I agree that there are many metrics on which you can judge a language. My post above was meant to be more about writing systems specifically than languages generally. (Sorry for the lack of clarity). Given a set language with a certain vocabulary, grammar etc.. I don’t why a phonemic system of writing would lead to less communication bandwidth, expressiveness, ambiguity etc… than a non phonemic one. Ditto for logogramatic writing systems.
In essence my mental model is that you can say certain things in certain ways with a given language. Which writing system you use effects how hard or easy it is to change from verbal language to written language, but the writing system itself doesn’t change the expressiveness, signalling, capacity fo intentional ambiguity etc...
Also, even if you think that ease of learning is not the only/most important metric, I still think it’s worth taking into account and giving at least a fair amount of weight to. After all a language which is far harder to learn (e.g: chinese) will result in a far smaller pool of literate people and even the people who are literate will be comparatively less so than in an alternate world where their language use a easier to learn writing system.
Ease/speed of learning is the wrong metric to evaluate a language or writing system. How effective it is for communication among the literate is far more important. And that communication includes interesting hard-to-measure features such as social signaling, intentional ambiguity, and extensibility to new concepts.
I agree that there are many metrics on which you can judge a language. My post above was meant to be more about writing systems specifically than languages generally. (Sorry for the lack of clarity). Given a set language with a certain vocabulary, grammar etc.. I don’t why a phonemic system of writing would lead to less communication bandwidth, expressiveness, ambiguity etc… than a non phonemic one. Ditto for logogramatic writing systems.
In essence my mental model is that you can say certain things in certain ways with a given language. Which writing system you use effects how hard or easy it is to change from verbal language to written language, but the writing system itself doesn’t change the expressiveness, signalling, capacity fo intentional ambiguity etc...
Also, even if you think that ease of learning is not the only/most important metric, I still think it’s worth taking into account and giving at least a fair amount of weight to. After all a language which is far harder to learn (e.g: chinese) will result in a far smaller pool of literate people and even the people who are literate will be comparatively less so than in an alternate world where their language use a easier to learn writing system.