Probably no, regardless of how our relationship with physics broadens and deepens, because of thermodynamics, which applies multiversally, on the metaphysical level.
We would have to build a perfect frictionless reversible computer at absolute zero, where we could live forever in an eternal beneficient cycle (I’m not a physicist but as far as I’m aware, such a device isn’t conceivable under our current laws of physics.), while somehow permanently sealing away the entropy that came into existence before us, the entropy that we’ve left in our wake, and the entropy that we generated in the course of building the computer. I’m fairly sure there can be no certain way to do that. It’s conceivable to me that there might be, for many laws of physics, once we have precise enough instruments, some sealing method that will work for most initial configurations. But, probably not.
But there will be other possible solutions, like crete a wormhole to another universe and thus escape the heat death of the universe. Surely, there could be many such ideas, and AI could spend billions years testing them.
And then the other universe eventually succumbs to its own heat death because that’s a basic law of physical systems (afaik).
I don’t feel well equipped to think about that properly though. I wonder.. could it be that the real basic law is that regions of physics that have the crucial balance of order and chaos that’s needed for life to emerge, those tend to be afflicted by entropy, but not everything that exists or that’s accessible from the cradle universe needs to have that affliction, is it possible that as soon as we penetrate the lining of the universe we’ll find an orderly space where information can be destroyed, reduced, reset.
There was no such thing as thermodynamic death. Not in the sense that there was, but in the sense that there was no well-defined mathematical “problem”, if you want to talk about thermodynamics. There is, in fact, no answer to the problem of how the temperature of an electron is determined? This is simply not a problem of any difficulty, its just that the equations are there for the most general purpose. It’s not at all unreasonable. What if the law doesn’t follow from a formal solution for this problem?
As for thermodynamics, this kind of thermodynamics is one of the leading fields of modern cosmology (to use a phrase I can’t remember off the cover) and of course a very common cosmological view. A quick look at the physics of this view may help you recognize something interesting and interesting.
In short, thermodynamics is the theory of physics which goes beyond quantum theory. But physics has been around for well beyond several generations, and we haven’t yet found any explanation for why (and indeed it’s been the subject of much debate), as I do with many things I learned at the begin of undergraduate level stuff. There’s even some interesting physics problems that I’m not able to figure out at the current stage of understanding.
(Does anyone see this on Google? The view from my university’s department of physics says “no, not in the way you’re telling and I’m not interested in hearing it” whereas “this is an interesting account of the law but not of what you’ve seen or seen, so it’s just one physics problem, and it’ll only be up to you if you get around to that” is what I do.)
For a moment there, I really truly thought that a qualified person was sternly disagreeing with me about the fundamentalness of thermodynamics, I became irate as they tried to substantiate this by claiming that entropy is a chimeric concept. No, you fool, you loon, you must understand that the kind of metaphysics we’re doing is all about general principles about large things, that loose empirical claims are sufficient, and I must admit that I have been fooled.
I have one minor nitpick (long run: the actual thermodynamic equations are pretty simple).
There are two different equations (the exp-exp operator equation from Quantum Mechanics, which I think is better) that I didn’t use, but it’s better to think of them as one big multiplicity (a.k.a. “exp(exp(exp(x),p, s),f s”) than to use them to give a full picture of the world. This is because the exp-exp operator is only defined to be in the (computable) model of the world, not the exp-exp operator model of the world.
It seems to me that, at the end of the equations, the exp-exp operator (A) does not have enough information (on the other hand, it is not clear that A’s information is “obviously correct”. The actual equation is certainly wrong).
The reason for this may not be apparent to anyone, but I think it is worth noting that the exp-exp operator (A, e.g., the exp of A, e.g., it does not have enough information (on the other hand, it is not clear that A’s information is “obviously correct”)).
This points to some surprising implication about the (compared to the exp of A or E), though:
The actual equations are not a good fit for the exp of A.
The equations can’t even be used to compute, for example, the exp of E.
The exp-exp operator’s equations are the same as the equations, so the equations would only be used in a very rough manner, though.
The equations are a good way of describing reality.
It’s not especially easy to compute the actual equations (which would make them more likely to be true than the equations), just so the exp-exp operator can’t be called a “true formula” and cannot be seen to be true.
It’s more useful to know how to specify the equations, even though it’s not as easy to write a computer program that can define equations.
Probably no, regardless of how our relationship with physics broadens and deepens, because of thermodynamics, which applies multiversally, on the metaphysical level.
We would have to build a perfect frictionless reversible computer at absolute zero, where we could live forever in an eternal beneficient cycle (I’m not a physicist but as far as I’m aware, such a device isn’t conceivable under our current laws of physics.), while somehow permanently sealing away the entropy that came into existence before us, the entropy that we’ve left in our wake, and the entropy that we generated in the course of building the computer. I’m fairly sure there can be no certain way to do that. It’s conceivable to me that there might be, for many laws of physics, once we have precise enough instruments, some sealing method that will work for most initial configurations. But, probably not.
But there will be other possible solutions, like crete a wormhole to another universe and thus escape the heat death of the universe. Surely, there could be many such ideas, and AI could spend billions years testing them.
And then the other universe eventually succumbs to its own heat death because that’s a basic law of physical systems (afaik).
I don’t feel well equipped to think about that properly though. I wonder.. could it be that the real basic law is that regions of physics that have the crucial balance of order and chaos that’s needed for life to emerge, those tend to be afflicted by entropy, but not everything that exists or that’s accessible from the cradle universe needs to have that affliction, is it possible that as soon as we penetrate the lining of the universe we’ll find an orderly space where information can be destroyed, reduced, reset.
There was no such thing as thermodynamic death. Not in the sense that there was, but in the sense that there was no well-defined mathematical “problem”, if you want to talk about thermodynamics. There is, in fact, no answer to the problem of how the temperature of an electron is determined? This is simply not a problem of any difficulty, its just that the equations are there for the most general purpose. It’s not at all unreasonable. What if the law doesn’t follow from a formal solution for this problem?
As for thermodynamics, this kind of thermodynamics is one of the leading fields of modern cosmology (to use a phrase I can’t remember off the cover) and of course a very common cosmological view. A quick look at the physics of this view may help you recognize something interesting and interesting.
In short, thermodynamics is the theory of physics which goes beyond quantum theory. But physics has been around for well beyond several generations, and we haven’t yet found any explanation for why (and indeed it’s been the subject of much debate), as I do with many things I learned at the begin of undergraduate level stuff. There’s even some interesting physics problems that I’m not able to figure out at the current stage of understanding.
(Does anyone see this on Google? The view from my university’s department of physics says “no, not in the way you’re telling and I’m not interested in hearing it” whereas “this is an interesting account of the law but not of what you’ve seen or seen, so it’s just one physics problem, and it’ll only be up to you if you get around to that” is what I do.)
For a moment there, I really truly thought that a qualified person was sternly disagreeing with me about the fundamentalness of thermodynamics, I became irate as they tried to substantiate this by claiming that entropy is a chimeric concept. No, you fool, you loon, you must understand that the kind of metaphysics we’re doing is all about general principles about large things, that loose empirical claims are sufficient, and I must admit that I have been fooled.
I think these should be shorter though.
I have one minor nitpick (long run: the actual thermodynamic equations are pretty simple).
There are two different equations (the exp-exp operator equation from Quantum Mechanics, which I think is better) that I didn’t use, but it’s better to think of them as one big multiplicity (a.k.a. “exp(exp(exp(x),p, s),f s”) than to use them to give a full picture of the world. This is because the exp-exp operator is only defined to be in the (computable) model of the world, not the exp-exp operator model of the world.
It seems to me that, at the end of the equations, the exp-exp operator (A) does not have enough information (on the other hand, it is not clear that A’s information is “obviously correct”. The actual equation is certainly wrong).
The reason for this may not be apparent to anyone, but I think it is worth noting that the exp-exp operator (A, e.g., the exp of A, e.g., it does not have enough information (on the other hand, it is not clear that A’s information is “obviously correct”)).
This points to some surprising implication about the (compared to the exp of A or E), though:
The actual equations are not a good fit for the exp of A.
The equations can’t even be used to compute, for example, the exp of E.
The exp-exp operator’s equations are the same as the equations, so the equations would only be used in a very rough manner, though.
The equations are a good way of describing reality.
It’s not especially easy to compute the actual equations (which would make them more likely to be true than the equations), just so the exp-exp operator can’t be called a “true formula” and cannot be seen to be true.
It’s more useful to know how to specify the equations, even though it’s not as easy to write a computer program that can define equations.