Rayhawk, largely because he talks about more important things than does Vladimir_M. I sorta wish Vladimir_M would do more speculative reasoning outside the spheres of game theory, social psychology, economics, politics, and so on—I would trust him to be less biased than most when considering strange ideas, e.g. the Singularity Institute’s mission.
I’m not sure that is a good heuristic, spending a lot of time in somewhere might mean he considers the ideas or at least debating them fun, which is not quite the same as important. If someone was studying my online habits they’d be better off assuming I optimize for fun rather than impact. (^_^’)
More like an endorsement of a campaign for mayorhood of a Floridian city circa 1920. Remember that the Klan had five million members not too long ago.
I like the institution of comparing people to Hitler, Lenin, &c., so long as people know just how reasonable and well-intentioned those people were. Hypocrites, cast out the beams in your own eyes before assessing the damage caused by the motes in theirs.
Also, you’re trolling wrong; but maybe that’s just meta-trolling, i.e., you’re trying to troll me by being apparently incompetent at trolling. I doubt it.
...I wonder if this “accuse Will Newsome of sockpuppeting” thing is some sort of LessWrong tradition now. You should know that the last time someone bet I was a sockpuppet, specifically AspiringKnitter, they nominally lost a hundred bucks.
(Also under the most straightforward interpretation you’re implicitly saying siodine is “purposefully stupid and incoherent” by his own lights, and that’s kinda mean.)
Under the most straightforward interpretation I think the convolution is only growing linearly? …Maybe someone should write a paper on the time complexity of meta-trolling in various fora as a gauge of the intellectual worthwhileness of said fora.
This is probably the most insightful comment that I’ve seen on LW in a long time.
Read his entire comment history. (FWIW Vladimir_M is I think my second favorite LW commenter.)
I endorse this recommendation, but I can’t help but wonder who is your favourite? (^_^)
Rayhawk, largely because he talks about more important things than does Vladimir_M. I sorta wish Vladimir_M would do more speculative reasoning outside the spheres of game theory, social psychology, economics, politics, and so on—I would trust him to be less biased than most when considering strange ideas, e.g. the Singularity Institute’s mission.
You can get a good idea of which ideas Vladimir_M considers important, by looking at where he chooses to spend his time.
I’m not sure that is a good heuristic, spending a lot of time in somewhere might mean he considers the ideas or at least debating them fun, which is not quite the same as important. If someone was studying my online habits they’d be better off assuming I optimize for fun rather than impact. (^_^’)
My mental model of Vladimir_M has this not being the case.
This is like having the Grand Wizard of the KKK endorse your foreign policy as a political candidate.
More like an endorsement of a campaign for mayorhood of a Floridian city circa 1920. Remember that the Klan had five million members not too long ago.
I like the institution of comparing people to Hitler, Lenin, &c., so long as people know just how reasonable and well-intentioned those people were. Hypocrites, cast out the beams in your own eyes before assessing the damage caused by the motes in theirs.
Did Jesus tell you to be purposefully stupid and incoherent?
Also, you’re trolling wrong; but maybe that’s just meta-trolling, i.e., you’re trying to troll me by being apparently incompetent at trolling. I doubt it.
Are you trying to troll me by pretending that I was trolling you? This will get convoluted very quickly.
You are actually Will Newsome himself, and I claim my £5.
I confess, it was me all along.
...I wonder if this “accuse Will Newsome of sockpuppeting” thing is some sort of LessWrong tradition now. You should know that the last time someone bet I was a sockpuppet, specifically AspiringKnitter, they nominally lost a hundred bucks.
I’m actually Will Newsome’s disembodied prefrontal cortex speaking from beyond the meta.
Liar, there is no such place. The other half of your claim is sorta plausible though.
(Also under the most straightforward interpretation you’re implicitly saying siodine is “purposefully stupid and incoherent” by his own lights, and that’s kinda mean.)
Under the most straightforward interpretation I think the convolution is only growing linearly? …Maybe someone should write a paper on the time complexity of meta-trolling in various fora as a gauge of the intellectual worthwhileness of said fora.
See my article “‘I Never Met A Troll I Didn’t’: A Meta-Analysis of Meta-Troll Meta-Data in the Metaverse”.
Since when do we mention the straightforward interpretation?
Not explicitly at least, but it’s possible he somehow implied it, or said it as the Holy Ghost working within Paul.