Whether or not the tree makes a noise is irrelevant once no one can hear it, and thus whether or not the tree is heard is a pre-condition to knowledge that it has fell.
This simply isn’t true. There are lots of ways I can know a tree has fallen, even if nobody has heard the tree fall.
what you’re saying is obviously true, but it goes beyond the information available. the question, limited the facts given, is representative of a larger point, which is the one I’m trying to explain as a general observation and is not limited to whether in fact That tree fell and made a noise.
btw, I never thanked you for our previous back and forth -- it was actually quite helpful, and your last comment in our discussion has kept me thinking for a couple weeks now, and perhaps in a couple more i will respond!
This simply isn’t true. There are lots of ways I can know a tree has fallen, even if nobody has heard the tree fall.
what you’re saying is obviously true, but it goes beyond the information available. the question, limited the facts given, is representative of a larger point, which is the one I’m trying to explain as a general observation and is not limited to whether in fact That tree fell and made a noise.
btw, I never thanked you for our previous back and forth -- it was actually quite helpful, and your last comment in our discussion has kept me thinking for a couple weeks now, and perhaps in a couple more i will respond!