Yeah, this post makes me wonder if there are non-abusive employers in EA who are nevertheless enabling abusers by normalizing behavior that makes abuse popular. Employers who pay their employees months late without clarity on why and what the plan is to get people paid eventually. Employers who employ people without writing things down, like how much people will get paid and when. Employers who try to enforce non-disclosure of work culture and pay.
Do any of those things happen much in EA? (I don’t think I’ve ever heard of an example of one of those things outside of Nonlinear, but maybe I’m out of the loop.)
CEA was pretty bad at this a few years ago, although I’m told they’ve improved. Things like forgetting to pay contractors, inconsistent about what expenses were reimbursable, even having people start trials without settling on salary.
Last year SERI MATS was pretty late on many people’s stipends, though my understanding is they were just going through some growing pains during that time, and they’re on the ball nowadays.
Yeah, to be clear I don’t have any information to suggest that the above is happening—I don’t work in EA circles—except for the fact that Ben said the EA ecosystem doesn’t have defenses against this happening, and that is one of the defenses I expect to exist.
Do any of those things happen much in EA? (I don’t think I’ve ever heard of an example of one of those things outside of Nonlinear, but maybe I’m out of the loop.)
CEA was pretty bad at this a few years ago, although I’m told they’ve improved. Things like forgetting to pay contractors, inconsistent about what expenses were reimbursable, even having people start trials without settling on salary.
Last year SERI MATS was pretty late on many people’s stipends, though my understanding is they were just going through some growing pains during that time, and they’re on the ball nowadays.
(Fwiw, I don’t remember problems with stipend payout at seri mats in the winter program. I was a winter scholar 2022⁄23.)
Yes. This was mats 2.0 in the summer of 2022.
Yeah, to be clear I don’t have any information to suggest that the above is happening—I don’t work in EA circles—except for the fact that Ben said the EA ecosystem doesn’t have defenses against this happening, and that is one of the defenses I expect to exist.