I think that the costs usually are worth it far more often than it occurs, from an outside view—which was David’s point, and what I was trying to respond to. I think that it’s more valuable than one expects to actually just jump through the hoops. And especially for people who haven’t yet ever had any outputs actually published, they really should do that at least once.
If you reread this conversation, you’ll notice that I never said I think these people are correct. I was just saying that their stated motivations and views are their real motivations and views.
I actually do agree with you and David Krueger that on the margin more LW types should be investing in making their work publishable and even getting it published. The plan had always been “do research first, then communicate it to the world when the time is right” well now we are out of time so the time is right.
Thanks, reading closely I see how you said that, but it wasn’t clear initially. (There’s an illusion of disagreement, which I’ll christen the “twitter fight fallacy,” where unless the opposite is said clearly, people automatically assume replies are disagreements.)
Worth it to the world/humanity/etc. though maybe some of them are more self-focused.
Probably a big chunk of it is lost for that reason yeah. I’m not sure what your point is, it doesn’t seem to be a reply to anything I said.
I think that the costs usually are worth it far more often than it occurs, from an outside view—which was David’s point, and what I was trying to respond to. I think that it’s more valuable than one expects to actually just jump through the hoops. And especially for people who haven’t yet ever had any outputs actually published, they really should do that at least once.
(Also, sorry for the zombie reply.)
I love zombie replies.
If you reread this conversation, you’ll notice that I never said I think these people are correct. I was just saying that their stated motivations and views are their real motivations and views.
I actually do agree with you and David Krueger that on the margin more LW types should be investing in making their work publishable and even getting it published. The plan had always been “do research first, then communicate it to the world when the time is right” well now we are out of time so the time is right.
Thanks, reading closely I see how you said that, but it wasn’t clear initially. (There’s an illusion of disagreement, which I’ll christen the “twitter fight fallacy,” where unless the opposite is said clearly, people automatically assume replies are disagreements.)