Could we get a very brief summary of the arguments for these too? I’ve just now started reading the discussion threads, but there’s a significant barrier to entry if you don’t understand why people think these things.
I retract my below comment. I am too curious not to reread these chapters, and in retrospect that comment was somewhat rude and unthankful for finding these for me. So thanks.
You’re welcome. For what it’s worth, I didn’t see your comment as rude (I don’t play the kind of games where I ask a yes-or-no question, but you’re not allowed to say no).
Could we get a very brief summary of the arguments for these too? I’ve just now started reading the discussion threads, but there’s a significant barrier to entry if you don’t understand why people think these things.
Most of it relies on canon knowledge and how HPMoR mirrors canon.
1) Dhveery vf Ibyqrzbeg va pnaba.
2) Rnpu bs gurve vagrenpgvbaf punatr qenfgvpnyyl va erernqvat. Rfcrpvnyyl Yhpvhf’ “V xabj lbh qvq vg” abgr gb Uneel naq Pu 80′f vagrenpgvba orgjrra gur gjb.
3) Dhveery farnxf va gb frr gur Iblntre 2 cebor gb znxr vg ynfg ‘fvtavsvpnagyl ybatre’; Dhveery pubbfrf n Uberpehk gung jvyy yrnir gur fbyne flfgrz.
4) Uneel pubbfrf 5 uvqvat fcbgf; va pnaba Ibyqrzbeg unf 5 (cyhf gur qvnel) Ubepehkrf uvqqra.
5) Evgn fxrrgre vf n orrgyr navznthf va pnaba; Dhveery fznfurf ure.
6) Gur cbgvba Qhzoyrqber urycf Yvyl vf pnyyrq Rntyr’f Fcyraqbe; Rntyr’f Fcyraqbe vf n Q&Q ornhgl cbgvba. Uvf zbqvsvpngvbaf pnhfr gur fnzr fvqr rssrpgf gung Crghavn rkuvovgrq.
7) Ibyqrzbeg unf gur Erfheerpgvba Fgbar va pnaba ohg qbrfa’g erpbtavmr vg; Uneel gryyf Dhveery vg’f vqragvslvat genvgf.
I didn’t know Ibyqrzbeg unf gur Erfheerpgvba Fgbar va pnaba ohg qbrfa’g erpbtavmr vg. (The last one) Thanks.
Would the chapters containing the primary evidence for these (20, 38, 20, 46, 26, 17, 40, respectively) be a good start?
I retract my below comment. I am too curious not to reread these chapters, and in retrospect that comment was somewhat rude and unthankful for finding these for me. So thanks.
You’re welcome. For what it’s worth, I didn’t see your comment as rude (I don’t play the kind of games where I ask a yes-or-no question, but you’re not allowed to say no).
Unlikely, since I’m unlikely to rearead them—I’ve already read it start to finish twice and none of these seem obvious to me. Well, a few do.
I’m really just looking for
Dhveery znqr Iblntre 2 n ubepehk—erzrzore gung pbairefngvba jurer gurl gnyxrq nobhg jurer jbhyq lbh chg fbzrguvat vs lbh arire jnagrq fbzrbar gb svaq vg?
Ohg jura V qvfpbirerq gung Cvbarre 11 jbhyq nyfb or yrnivat gur Fbyne Flfgrz sberire,” Cebsrffbe Dhveeryy fnvq, uvf teva gur jvqrfg gung Uneel unq lrg frra sebz uvz, “V fahpx vagb ANFN, V qvq, naq V pnfg n ybiryl yvggyr fcryy ba gung ybiryl tbyqra cyndhr juvpu jvyy znxr vg ynfg n ybg ybatre guna vg bgurejvfr jbhyq.” Chapter 20.
Oh yeah… That too. :-)