Disagreement is not necessarily about truth, it’s often about (not) sharing a subjective opinion. In that case resolving it doesn’t make any sense, the things in disagreement can coexist, just as you and the disagreer are different people. The expectation that agreement is (always) about truth is just mistranslation, the meaning is different. Of course falsity/fallaciousness implies disagreement with people who see truth/validity, so it’s some evidence about error if the claims you were making are not subjective (author-referring).
contentless net-disagreement as very hard to interface with
For subjective claims, the alternative to disagreement being comfortable is emotional experience of intolerance, intuitive channeling of conformance-norm-enforcement (whether externally enacted, or self-targeted, or neither).
When the comment is about truth, then agreement/disagreement is automatically about truth. There are comments that are not about truth, being about truth is a special case that shouldn’t be in the general interface, especially if it happens to already be the intended special case of this more general thing I’m pointing at.
I definitely don’t think that “When the comment is about truth, then agreement/disagreement is automatically about truth” is a true statement about humans in general, though it might be aspirationally true of LWers?
Disagreement is not necessarily about truth, it’s often about (not) sharing a subjective opinion. In that case resolving it doesn’t make any sense, the things in disagreement can coexist, just as you and the disagreer are different people. The expectation that agreement is (always) about truth is just mistranslation, the meaning is different. Of course falsity/fallaciousness implies disagreement with people who see truth/validity, so it’s some evidence about error if the claims you were making are not subjective (author-referring).
For subjective claims, the alternative to disagreement being comfortable is emotional experience of intolerance, intuitive channeling of conformance-norm-enforcement (whether externally enacted, or self-targeted, or neither).
Right. I’m advocating that we do have a symbol for agreement/disagreement about truth, and leave the subjective stuff in the karma score.
When the comment is about truth, then agreement/disagreement is automatically about truth. There are comments that are not about truth, being about truth is a special case that shouldn’t be in the general interface, especially if it happens to already be the intended special case of this more general thing I’m pointing at.
I definitely don’t think that “When the comment is about truth, then agreement/disagreement is automatically about truth” is a true statement about humans in general, though it might be aspirationally true of LWers?
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