Even a completely wrong claim occasionally contributes relevant ideas to the discussion. A comment can contain many claims and ideas, and salient wrongness of some of the claims (or subjective opinions not shared by the voter) can easily coexist with correctness/relevance of other statements in the same comment. So upvote/disagree is a natural situation. Downvote/correct corresponds to something true that’s trivial/irrelevant/inappropriate/unkind. Being forced to collapse such cases into a single scale is painful, and the resulting ranking is ambiguous to the point of uselessness.
Bug report: At the moment, the parent comment says that it has 2 votes on the karma box for the total score of +2 (the karma self-vote is the default +2), and 1 vote on the agreement box for the total score of +2 (there is no agreement self-vote). When I remove the default self-upvote, it still says that there are 2 votes on the karma box (for the total score of 0). For the old karma-only comments removing the self-vote results in decrementing the number of votes displayed, and a comment with removed self-upvote that nobody else voted on says that it has 0 votes.
I believe here one other user agreement-upvoted the comment with strength +2, and nobody karma-voted except for the default +2 self-karma-upvote. So in this example I expect to see that the number of karma votes displayed after removal of the default self-upvote is 0, not 2. And I expect to see that the number of karma votes when self-upvote remains is 1, not 2. (I did reload the page in both voting states in a logged-off context to check that it’s not just a local javascript or same-user-observation issue.)
Even a completely wrong claim occasionally contributes relevant ideas to the discussion. A comment can contain many claims and ideas, and salient wrongness of some of the claims (or subjective opinions not shared by the voter) can easily coexist with correctness/relevance of other statements in the same comment. So upvote/disagree is a natural situation. Downvote/correct corresponds to something true that’s trivial/irrelevant/inappropriate/unkind. Being forced to collapse such cases into a single scale is painful, and the resulting ranking is ambiguous to the point of uselessness.
Bug report: At the moment, the parent comment says that it has 2 votes on the karma box for the total score of +2 (the karma self-vote is the default +2), and 1 vote on the agreement box for the total score of +2 (there is no agreement self-vote). When I remove the default self-upvote, it still says that there are 2 votes on the karma box (for the total score of 0). For the old karma-only comments removing the self-vote results in decrementing the number of votes displayed, and a comment with removed self-upvote that nobody else voted on says that it has 0 votes.
I believe here one other user agreement-upvoted the comment with strength +2, and nobody karma-voted except for the default +2 self-karma-upvote. So in this example I expect to see that the number of karma votes displayed after removal of the default self-upvote is 0, not 2. And I expect to see that the number of karma votes when self-upvote remains is 1, not 2. (I did reload the page in both voting states in a logged-off context to check that it’s not just a local javascript or same-user-observation issue.)
Yeah, I noticed this myself. We should fix this.