Michael Vassar has mentioned to me that the proportion of first/only children at LW is extremely high. I’m not sure whether birth order makes a big difference, but it might be worth asking about. By the way, I’m not only first-born, I’m the first grandchild on both sides.
Questions about akrasia—Do you have no/mild/moderate/serious problems with it? Has anything on LW helped?
I left some of the probability questions blank because I realized had no idea of a sensible probability, and I especially mean whether we’re living in a simulation.
It might be interesting to ask people whether they usually vote.
The link to the survey doesn’t work because the survey is closed—could you make the text of the survey available?
Yes. Being first-born is correlated with having few siblings, which is correlated with parents with low fertility, which is genetically inherited from grandparents with low fertility, which is correlated with your parents having few siblings, which is correlated with them being first-born.
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I agree with your conclusion that the heritability of firstbornness is nonzero, but I’m not sure this reasoning is valid. (Pearson) correlation is not, in general, transitive: if X is correlated with Y and Y is correlated with Z, it does not necessarily follow that X is correlated with Z unless the squares of the correlation coefficients between X and Y and between Y and Z sum to more than one.
Actually calculating the heritability of firstbornness turns out to be a nontrivial math problem. For example, while it is obvious that having few siblings is correlated with being firstborn, it’s not obvious to me exactly what that correlation coefficient should be, nor how to calculate it from first principles. When I don’t know how to solve a problem from first principles, my first instinct is to simulate it, so I wrote a short script to calculate the Pearson correlation between number of siblings and not-being-a-firstborn for a population where family size is uniformly distributed on the integers from 1 to n. It turns out that the correlation decreases as n gets larger (from [edited:] ~0.5[8] for n=[2] to ~0.3[1] for n=50), which fact probably has an obvious-in-retrospect intuitive explanation which I am somehow having trouble articulating explicitly …
Ultimately, however, other priorities prevent me from continuing this line of inquiry at the present moment.
Pearson correlation between number of siblings and not-being-a-firstborn for a population where family size is uniformly distributed on the integers from 1 to n [...] ~0.57 for n=1
I’m confused: does this make sense for n=1? (Your code suggests that that should be n=2, maybe?)
Only child; both parents oldest siblings. Of course this configuration isn’t monstrously rare; we should expect a fair few instances just by chance.
I wonder if being the first-born is genetically heritable.
This is probably just intended as a joke; but it seems pretty plausible that having few children is heritable (though it had better not be too heritable, else small families will simply die out), and the fraction of first-borns is larger in smaller families.
Maybe the survey should be shown to beta readers or put up for discussion (except for obscure fact calibration questions) to improve the odds of detecting questions that don’t work the way it’s hoped.
That’s an interesting theory. My experience tends to say otherwise, at least where Australia is concerned.
My Paternal Grandfather was a consciencious objector and paid the fine every time. They never missed a year of that… you’re signed up to the electoral roll when you turn 18 and there are stiff penalties if you fail to sign up… as another friend of mine found out when the policemen came knocking at his door.
Michael Vassar has mentioned to me that the proportion of first/only children at LW is extremely high. I’m not sure whether birth order makes a big difference, but it might be worth asking about. By the way, I’m not only first-born, I’m the first grandchild on both sides.
Questions about akrasia—Do you have no/mild/moderate/serious problems with it? Has anything on LW helped?
I left some of the probability questions blank because I realized had no idea of a sensible probability, and I especially mean whether we’re living in a simulation.
It might be interesting to ask people whether they usually vote.
The link to the survey doesn’t work because the survey is closed—could you make the text of the survey available?
So am I! I wonder if being the first-born is genetically heritable.
Yes. Being first-born is correlated with having few siblings, which is correlated with parents with low fertility, which is genetically inherited from grandparents with low fertility, which is correlated with your parents having few siblings, which is correlated with them being first-born.
I agree with your conclusion that the heritability of firstbornness is nonzero, but I’m not sure this reasoning is valid. (Pearson) correlation is not, in general, transitive: if X is correlated with Y and Y is correlated with Z, it does not necessarily follow that X is correlated with Z unless the squares of the correlation coefficients between X and Y and between Y and Z sum to more than one.
Actually calculating the heritability of firstbornness turns out to be a nontrivial math problem. For example, while it is obvious that having few siblings is correlated with being firstborn, it’s not obvious to me exactly what that correlation coefficient should be, nor how to calculate it from first principles. When I don’t know how to solve a problem from first principles, my first instinct is to simulate it, so I wrote a short script to calculate the Pearson correlation between number of siblings and not-being-a-firstborn for a population where family size is uniformly distributed on the integers from 1 to n. It turns out that the correlation decreases as n gets larger (from [edited:] ~0.5[8] for n=[2] to ~0.3[1] for n=50), which fact probably has an obvious-in-retrospect intuitive explanation which I am somehow having trouble articulating explicitly …
Ultimately, however, other priorities prevent me from continuing this line of inquiry at the present moment.
I’m confused: does this make sense for n=1? (Your code suggests that that should be n=2, maybe?)
You’re right, thanks; I had [also] made an off-by-one error.
Only child; both parents oldest siblings. Of course this configuration isn’t monstrously rare; we should expect a fair few instances just by chance.
This is probably just intended as a joke; but it seems pretty plausible that having few children is heritable (though it had better not be too heritable, else small families will simply die out), and the fraction of first-borns is larger in smaller families.
Ditto :) but I intend to reproduce eventually in maximum useful volume.
There was a poll about firstborns.
That poll shows a remarkable result, the number of people that are the oldest sibling outnumber those who have older siblings 2:1.
There are also twice as many only children in that survey as in the U.S. population in 1980, but that is a known effect.
More than 3:1 even. I speculated a bit here.
I’m a twin that’s 2 minutes younger than first-born. Be careful how you ask about birth order.
Good point.
Maybe the survey should be shown to beta readers or put up for discussion (except for obscure fact calibration questions) to improve the odds of detecting questions that don’t work the way it’s hoped.
Only for those living in countries where voting is non-mandatory
Eh, even in the countries where it’s mandatory, it’s often so little enforced that the question is still meaningful.
That’s an interesting theory. My experience tends to say otherwise, at least where Australia is concerned.
My Paternal Grandfather was a consciencious objector and paid the fine every time. They never missed a year of that… you’re signed up to the electoral roll when you turn 18 and there are stiff penalties if you fail to sign up… as another friend of mine found out when the policemen came knocking at his door.
Seems like it’s interesting in both cases, but well worth delineating!