I looked up “the Zizians”. They seem to be some group of people in California, I guess. Anyway, I interpret your comment as “maybe those people have schizophrenia”. OK, maybe they do, maybe they don’t, I dunno. Lots of people have schizophrenia.
I think if you want to discuss which people do or don’t have schizophrenia, and how that does or doesn’t effect their behavior, that’s fine, at least in principle. (In practice, things can go badly when amateurs start trying to give psychological diagnoses to people they don’t like.)
But I don’t see how it would be related to this blog post.
If you want to know how people behave when they have schizophrenia, the right approach is to look at lots of people with schizophrenia and write down how they behave. People have already done this, and you can read the results on wikipedia and many other places. The wrong approach is to read highly-speculative musings on the neuroscience of schizophrenia, like the contents of this blog post. Any information in the latter is screened off by the former, right?
Ok, I appreciate you clarifying. I should have made the connection more clear. The connection is that Ziz’s theory is that humans are actually, very literally, two people: one left hemisphere and one right hemisphere, with different personalities, life orientations, and perhaps genders. See for example the links in https://hivewired.wordpress.com/2019/12/02/hemisphere-theory-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ (I haven’t read that summary carefully). Some other “Zizians” also say they believe this about themselves, and believe that other people are deluding themselves into thinking that they’re just one person. That group of people also seems to be very much outcast from society, and speak in an abnormal way, which some people (unfairly, IMO) describe as crazy / schizo / incomprehensible. Maybe it’s not a deep connection, but it just seems interesting; there could be some shared component between the phenomenon Ziz and others describe, with the physiology that you hypothesize is related to schizophrenia.
I personally am inclined to think that Ziz was wrong about the hemispheres; my own view is that split-hemisphere patients seem to have a distinct consciousness in each hemisphere because the hemispheres have been physically severed from each other, and when the hemispheres are attached both integrate (along with the rest of the brain) into a single unified consciousness. Accordingly, I think the distinct personalities were induced in the same fashion as tulpas/headmates typically are, rather than reflecting a preexisting neurological reality that’s been uncovered.
I looked up “the Zizians”. They seem to be some group of people in California, I guess. Anyway, I interpret your comment as “maybe those people have schizophrenia”. OK, maybe they do, maybe they don’t, I dunno. Lots of people have schizophrenia.
I think if you want to discuss which people do or don’t have schizophrenia, and how that does or doesn’t effect their behavior, that’s fine, at least in principle. (In practice, things can go badly when amateurs start trying to give psychological diagnoses to people they don’t like.)
But I don’t see how it would be related to this blog post.
If you want to know how people behave when they have schizophrenia, the right approach is to look at lots of people with schizophrenia and write down how they behave. People have already done this, and you can read the results on wikipedia and many other places. The wrong approach is to read highly-speculative musings on the neuroscience of schizophrenia, like the contents of this blog post. Any information in the latter is screened off by the former, right?
Ok, I appreciate you clarifying. I should have made the connection more clear. The connection is that Ziz’s theory is that humans are actually, very literally, two people: one left hemisphere and one right hemisphere, with different personalities, life orientations, and perhaps genders. See for example the links in https://hivewired.wordpress.com/2019/12/02/hemisphere-theory-much-more-than-you-wanted-to-know/ (I haven’t read that summary carefully). Some other “Zizians” also say they believe this about themselves, and believe that other people are deluding themselves into thinking that they’re just one person. That group of people also seems to be very much outcast from society, and speak in an abnormal way, which some people (unfairly, IMO) describe as crazy / schizo / incomprehensible. Maybe it’s not a deep connection, but it just seems interesting; there could be some shared component between the phenomenon Ziz and others describe, with the physiology that you hypothesize is related to schizophrenia.
I personally am inclined to think that Ziz was wrong about the hemispheres; my own view is that split-hemisphere patients seem to have a distinct consciousness in each hemisphere because the hemispheres have been physically severed from each other, and when the hemispheres are attached both integrate (along with the rest of the brain) into a single unified consciousness. Accordingly, I think the distinct personalities were induced in the same fashion as tulpas/headmates typically are, rather than reflecting a preexisting neurological reality that’s been uncovered.
Obviously. That’s why it’s connected to this blog post.