The word behavior doesn’t really feature much in the ongoing discussions I have. My first post was an answer to OP, not meant as a stand-alone truth. But obviously, If “consciousness” means anything, it’s a thing that happens in the brain—I’d say it’s the thing that makes complex and human-like behaviors possible.
If the criteria for consciousness include things you can’t observe “normally” <...>
Normally is the key word here. There is nothing normal about your scenario. I need an fmri can for it, because there is nothing else that I can observe. Compared to that, the human in a box communicating through speech is very normal and quite sufficient. Unless the human is mute or malicious. Then I might need more complex tools.
much of the relevant information is already hidden
It’s obscured, sure. But truly hiding information is hard. Speech isn’t that narrow of a window, by the way. Now, if I had to communicate with the agent in the box by sending one bit of information back and forth, that would be more of a problem.
The word behavior doesn’t really feature much in the ongoing discussions I have. My first post was an answer to OP, not meant as a stand-alone truth. But obviously, If “consciousness” means anything, it’s a thing that happens in the brain—I’d say it’s the thing that makes complex and human-like behaviors possible.
Normally is the key word here. There is nothing normal about your scenario. I need an fmri can for it, because there is nothing else that I can observe. Compared to that, the human in a box communicating through speech is very normal and quite sufficient. Unless the human is mute or malicious. Then I might need more complex tools.
It’s obscured, sure. But truly hiding information is hard. Speech isn’t that narrow of a window, by the way. Now, if I had to communicate with the agent in the box by sending one bit of information back and forth, that would be more of a problem.