Hi,I have a question I haven’t seen adressed after a qucik search.
A friend of mine has been diagnosed with mild paranoid schizophrenia after he attacked his brother and got hospitalized thereafter. this was 2 years ago.he got (and still gets) medical treatment (some sort of neuroleptica, I suppose), but not much more. it sort of helped, he has a nice job and some superficial friendships (he never had great interest in things social).
Now, the paranoia has surfaced again. I guess it was there all along, but nobody knew for sure. We’re afraid it’ll get worse soon.
Question is, what to do? I adress this here because my friend is higly intelligent and seems still responsive to reason, indeed, he helds rational thinking in high regard. Doctors advise not to mention his delusions in order to not “manifest the paranoia”, so i don’t know much besides i’m part of some sort of minor conspiracy revolving around him. this conspiracy is the only thing that irritates and bothers him—he doesn’t hear voices or anything like that. he rejects any form of therapy or hospitalization- according to him, it was a very bad and traumatic experience.
So. Might it be possible to talk him out of it?
any thoughts and questions for clarification welcome.
I guess you’d need an expert psychiatrist rationalist to benefit from this angle. Any obvious advice runs too high a risk of being invalidated by more solid facts known about people in such conditions, so one would need to start with that knowledge.
Thanks for the quick response.
I have some trouble understanding, probably due to the language barrier. Do you mean 1) if at all, olny an “expert psychiatrist rationalist” might talk him out of it, or, 2) I should seek knowledge from such a person?
if 2), where to find them? Any suggestions?
I’m not aware of anyone here being a professional psychiatrist, so can’t help with that. I’m only warning that seeking advice from people who know nothing about a phenomenon is generally a bad idea, even if those people have some orthogonal advantage. For example, it’s (much) better to seek construction advice from an ordinary engineer that from a genius who is not an engineer.
Hi,I have a question I haven’t seen adressed after a qucik search. A friend of mine has been diagnosed with mild paranoid schizophrenia after he attacked his brother and got hospitalized thereafter. this was 2 years ago.he got (and still gets) medical treatment (some sort of neuroleptica, I suppose), but not much more. it sort of helped, he has a nice job and some superficial friendships (he never had great interest in things social). Now, the paranoia has surfaced again. I guess it was there all along, but nobody knew for sure. We’re afraid it’ll get worse soon. Question is, what to do? I adress this here because my friend is higly intelligent and seems still responsive to reason, indeed, he helds rational thinking in high regard. Doctors advise not to mention his delusions in order to not “manifest the paranoia”, so i don’t know much besides i’m part of some sort of minor conspiracy revolving around him. this conspiracy is the only thing that irritates and bothers him—he doesn’t hear voices or anything like that. he rejects any form of therapy or hospitalization- according to him, it was a very bad and traumatic experience. So. Might it be possible to talk him out of it? any thoughts and questions for clarification welcome.
I guess you’d need an expert psychiatrist rationalist to benefit from this angle. Any obvious advice runs too high a risk of being invalidated by more solid facts known about people in such conditions, so one would need to start with that knowledge.
Thanks for the quick response. I have some trouble understanding, probably due to the language barrier. Do you mean 1) if at all, olny an “expert psychiatrist rationalist” might talk him out of it, or, 2) I should seek knowledge from such a person? if 2), where to find them? Any suggestions?
I’m not aware of anyone here being a professional psychiatrist, so can’t help with that. I’m only warning that seeking advice from people who know nothing about a phenomenon is generally a bad idea, even if those people have some orthogonal advantage. For example, it’s (much) better to seek construction advice from an ordinary engineer that from a genius who is not an engineer.