So I’m confused—where can we access the wiki now? You said some were classed as tags and others weren’t? So are *all* the articles under concepts; or only some? And how do we create a new wiki page?
I was expecting people to be confused, so I’m glad you asked. It’s currently a slightly messy situation while we still figure out some design decisions and possibly build a few missing pieces.
The only wiki pages right now are those which have been imported. You can find them all on this page.
Right now, both tags and wikis are implemented as Tags, except some of them have a flag that deactivates the tag-specific features and so makes it a pure wiki page. Only admins can set this flag right now.
Wiki-only pages currently do not appear on the Concepts page. There are too many for it currently, we will have to change somehow.
Currently, users cannot create new wiki pages. We will change that, but there are still some details to be decided on how to actually best go about. For now, you can make tag pages and we’ll change them to be wiki-only if that makes more sense (and ping us you want to bring to our attention that a tag should be a wiki).
eventually, wiki pages will be findable in search and in other parts of the site.
Overall, the design we’ve ended up with combines tags and wiki pages as almost the same thing, except tags can be applied to posts. We’ve considered the name “twiki“.
While we’re not done building the system, it’s a bit messy. It still seemed good to import the old wiki at this point though. Hopefully we’ll get everything else to a not confusing state soon.
(I don’t think it matters enough to avoid that name, but there will certainly be small confusions, by search engines and by people familiar with that Twiki and getting into LessWrong as newcomers. I can’t imagine that leading to any particular negative consequence other than some little wasted time and brainpower for those, though.)
I might be too much in the German way of nanimg things but tagwiki seem superior to twiki. Twiki is unclear to pronounce (do you say it as T wiki or TW iki?) and also not explainatory to someone who doesn’t understand it.
Downvote this comment to cancel out me getting karma for running a poll.
Also I think voting for more than 1 option is good if you’re indifferent between two options.
I think both “karma” and “number of votes” are both interesting. Also the LW team might decide some consideration, so this can strongly influence our thinking but not completely determine it, necessarily.
So I’m confused—where can we access the wiki now? You said some were classed as tags and others weren’t? So are *all* the articles under concepts; or only some? And how do we create a new wiki page?
I was expecting people to be confused, so I’m glad you asked. It’s currently a slightly messy situation while we still figure out some design decisions and possibly build a few missing pieces.
The only wiki pages right now are those which have been imported. You can find them all on this page.
Right now, both tags and wikis are implemented as Tags, except some of them have a flag that deactivates the tag-specific features and so makes it a pure wiki page. Only admins can set this flag right now.
Wiki-only pages currently do not appear on the Concepts page. There are too many for it currently, we will have to change somehow.
Currently, users cannot create new wiki pages. We will change that, but there are still some details to be decided on how to actually best go about. For now, you can make tag pages and we’ll change them to be wiki-only if that makes more sense (and ping us you want to bring to our attention that a tag should be a wiki).
eventually, wiki pages will be findable in search and in other parts of the site.
Overall, the design we’ve ended up with combines tags and wiki pages as almost the same thing, except tags can be applied to posts. We’ve considered the name “twiki“.
While we’re not done building the system, it’s a bit messy. It still seemed good to import the old wiki at this point though. Hopefully we’ll get everything else to a not confusing state soon.
“Twiki” is already the name of a wiki-related product (https://twiki.org/), so that might be confusing.
That project is Twiki, not twiki like we’re suggesting. Shouldn’t be any confusion.
Famous last words.
(I don’t think it matters enough to avoid that name, but there will certainly be small confusions, by search engines and by people familiar with that Twiki and getting into LessWrong as newcomers. I can’t imagine that leading to any particular negative consequence other than some little wasted time and brainpower for those, though.)
(Just to be clear, I understood Ruby’s comment to be a joke)
Twig!
I might be too much in the German way of nanimg things but tagwiki seem superior to twiki. Twiki is unclear to pronounce (do you say it as T wiki or TW iki?) and also not explainatory to someone who doesn’t understand it.
Edit: StackExchange seems to use “tag wiki” https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/214337/what-is-a-tag-wiki-how-do-i-write-a-good-one It seems that how things have to work in English.
I think the natural pronounciation in English is twik-ee, rhymes with quick-ee. If it were T-wiki, you’d spell it like that.
Originally I was calling them wiki-tags, till someone jokingly called them twiki’s which just seemed pretty good—shorter.
You’re right about the cost of the meaning not being obvious.
Probably should poll people.
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Downvote this comment to cancel out me getting karma for running a poll.
Also I think voting for more than 1 option is good if you’re indifferent between two options.
I think both “karma” and “number of votes” are both interesting. Also the LW team might decide some consideration, so this can strongly influence our thinking but not completely determine it, necessarily.