My interpretation (which Eliezer’s above comment seems to have confirmed) was, Eliezer deleted Roko’s comment for the exact same reason he would have deleted an epileptic-fit-inducing animation. Simply to protect some of the readers, many of whom might not even be aware of their own vulnerability, for this is not exacly a commonly triggered or recognized weakness.
I felt all the rest with ‘existential risk’ and ‘supressed ideas’ was just added by people in the absence of real information. Like, someone saw ‘existential risk’ near (in?) Roko’s comment and heard that Eliezer is worried about ‘existential risks’ so they concluded that must have been the reason the post was deleted. This sort of thing tends to happen, especially when they were already critical, such as timtyler, who was taking potshots at Eliezer and the SIAI even before Roko’s post was deleted (top 2 comments). (Yes, I mention timtyler because I know his opinion could have affected yours)
My big problem with this theory is that it requires you to have been making a basic mistake. Which is always suspect, since shown yourself a smart and competent poster. (That some other posters, such as WFG were foolish is a given, I’m afraid.) So the simplest way to resolve my confusion is to ask you directly, hence this comment.
Why do you dismiss the above interpretation? What do you see that I don’t?
Since you have already replied to the grandparent with a partial affirmation could you please confirm or (I hope) deny the primary contention of said comment?
My interpretation (which Eliezer’s above comment seems to have confirmed) was, Eliezer deleted Roko’s comment for the exact same reason he would have deleted an epileptic-fit-inducing animation.
That is another idiot ball which I have assumed you are not guilty of bearing. But if you are giving support to a comment which presents such an interpretation it warrants clarification.
Depends what you mean by “exact same”. I deleted the basilisk strictly to protect readers, yes. I didn’t realize at the time that there was also an immediate damage mode for unusually vulnerable readers.
wedrifid
My interpretation (which Eliezer’s above comment seems to have confirmed) was, Eliezer deleted Roko’s comment for the exact same reason he would have deleted an epileptic-fit-inducing animation. Simply to protect some of the readers, many of whom might not even be aware of their own vulnerability, for this is not exacly a commonly triggered or recognized weakness.
I felt all the rest with ‘existential risk’ and ‘supressed ideas’ was just added by people in the absence of real information. Like, someone saw ‘existential risk’ near (in?) Roko’s comment and heard that Eliezer is worried about ‘existential risks’ so they concluded that must have been the reason the post was deleted. This sort of thing tends to happen, especially when they were already critical, such as timtyler, who was taking potshots at Eliezer and the SIAI even before Roko’s post was deleted (top 2 comments). (Yes, I mention timtyler because I know his opinion could have affected yours)
My big problem with this theory is that it requires you to have been making a basic mistake. Which is always suspect, since shown yourself a smart and competent poster. (That some other posters, such as WFG were foolish is a given, I’m afraid.) So the simplest way to resolve my confusion is to ask you directly, hence this comment.
Why do you dismiss the above interpretation? What do you see that I don’t?
Yes, whole rafts of stuff are being made-up here.
Since you have already replied to the grandparent with a partial affirmation could you please confirm or (I hope) deny the primary contention of said comment?
That is another idiot ball which I have assumed you are not guilty of bearing. But if you are giving support to a comment which presents such an interpretation it warrants clarification.
Depends what you mean by “exact same”. I deleted the basilisk strictly to protect readers, yes. I didn’t realize at the time that there was also an immediate damage mode for unusually vulnerable readers.