This actually doesn’t seem like the same thing to me.
I think it’s fine to recruit people for projects. (if sdr meant to be implying that that was not okay, I’d disagree with that). The problem is systematically recruiting newcomers in a way that pressures them into doing things that aren’t actually in their interest.
One thing I like about LW and EA is that it’s fairly common for people say “IF you care about X and Y, then maybe you should consider doing Z”, instead of “Do Z.”
I actually think we do a decent, if imperfect, job of pointing to object-level-things to do. If you care about animals, donate to the Humane League or other Animal Charity Evaluator recommendations. If you care about animals and want to dedicate serious time to it, volunteer for one of those organizations. (These might not be the same things you think are most valuable, but if that’s the case, then you can argue specifically with those recommendations or advocate for why you think your causes are most promising—there’s a lot of that going on)
This actually doesn’t seem like the same thing to me.
I think it’s fine to recruit people for projects. (if sdr meant to be implying that that was not okay, I’d disagree with that). The problem is systematically recruiting newcomers in a way that pressures them into doing things that aren’t actually in their interest.
One thing I like about LW and EA is that it’s fairly common for people say “IF you care about X and Y, then maybe you should consider doing Z”, instead of “Do Z.”
I actually think we do a decent, if imperfect, job of pointing to object-level-things to do. If you care about animals, donate to the Humane League or other Animal Charity Evaluator recommendations. If you care about animals and want to dedicate serious time to it, volunteer for one of those organizations. (These might not be the same things you think are most valuable, but if that’s the case, then you can argue specifically with those recommendations or advocate for why you think your causes are most promising—there’s a lot of that going on)
Then maybe we need a ‘Things I care about’ thread:)