I don’t mind the occasional downvote or negative karma, it even has some positive benefits, such as being a useful signalling function. As it’s decent evidence I haven’t tailored my comments for popularity or platitudes.
In regards to your points, I’ll only try to respond to them one at a time, since this is already pretty far down the comment chain.
IMO, there’s nothing particularly “antithetical to LW aims/LW culture” about neuroticism-related “shortcomings” (compared to a robotic ideal of perfect instrumental rationality) like having triggers or being unusually affected by harsh criticism.
Who suggested that there was a relation between being “antithetical to LW aims/LW culture” and “neuroticism-related “shortcomings”″?
i.e. Is it supposed to be my idea, TurnTrout’s, your’s, a general sentiment, something from the collective unconscious, etc.?
I made an edit to my above comment to address your question; it’s probably confusing that I used quotation marks for something that wasn’t a direct quote by anyone.
as a kind of semantic brackets; I think the official way to do this is to write-the-words-connected-by-hyphens, but that just seems hard to read;
to remove a possible connotation, i.e. to signal that I am using the word not exactly as most people would probably use it in a similar situation;
or as a combination of both, something like: I am using these words to express an idea, but these are probably not the right words, but I can’t find any better, so please do not take this part literally and don’t start nitpicking (don’t assume that I used a specific word because I wanted to hint at something specific).
For example, as I understand it,
“Shortcomings” compared to a robotic ideal of perfect instrumental rationality.
Means: things that technically are shortcomings (because they deviate from some ideal), but also a reasonable person wouldn’t call them so (because it is a normal human behavior, and I would actually be very suspicious about anyone who claimed to not have any of them), so the word is kinda correct but also kinda incorrect. But it is a way to express what I mean.
But to clarify, this is not the reason why I ‘might be concerned about bad incentives in this case’, if you were wondering.
Sounds like I misinterpreted the motivation behind your original comment!
I ran out of energy to continue this thread/conversation, but feel free to clarify what you meant for others (if you think it isn’t already clear enough for most readers).
I don’t mind the occasional downvote or negative karma, it even has some positive benefits, such as being a useful signalling function. As it’s decent evidence I haven’t tailored my comments for popularity or platitudes.
In regards to your points, I’ll only try to respond to them one at a time, since this is already pretty far down the comment chain.
Who suggested that there was a relation between being “antithetical to LW aims/LW culture” and “neuroticism-related “shortcomings”″?
i.e. Is it supposed to be my idea, TurnTrout’s, your’s, a general sentiment, something from the collective unconscious, etc.?
I made an edit to my above comment to address your question; it’s probably confusing that I used quotation marks for something that wasn’t a direct quote by anyone.
I appreciate the edit though can you clarify why you put so many quotes in when they are your own thoughts?
Is it just an idiosyncratic writing style or is it also meant to convey some emotion, context, direction, etc.?
But to clarify, this is not the reason why I ‘might be concerned about bad incentives in this case’, if you were wondering.
Not Lukas, but I also sometimes use quotes:
as a kind of semantic brackets; I think the official way to do this is to write-the-words-connected-by-hyphens, but that just seems hard to read;
to remove a possible connotation, i.e. to signal that I am using the word not exactly as most people would probably use it in a similar situation;
or as a combination of both, something like: I am using these words to express an idea, but these are probably not the right words, but I can’t find any better, so please do not take this part literally and don’t start nitpicking (don’t assume that I used a specific word because I wanted to hint at something specific).
For example, as I understand it,
Means: things that technically are shortcomings (because they deviate from some ideal), but also a reasonable person wouldn’t call them so (because it is a normal human behavior, and I would actually be very suspicious about anyone who claimed to not have any of them), so the word is kinda correct but also kinda incorrect. But it is a way to express what I mean.
Sounds like I misinterpreted the motivation behind your original comment!
I ran out of energy to continue this thread/conversation, but feel free to clarify what you meant for others (if you think it isn’t already clear enough for most readers).