Yep that’s fair, there is some subjectivity here. I was hoping that the charges from SDNY would have a specific amount that Sam was alleged to have defrauded, but they don’t seem to.
Regarding $4B missing: adding in Anthropic gets another $4B on the EA side of the ledger, and founders pledge another $1B. The value produced by Anthropic is questionable, and maybe negative of course, but I think by the strict definition of “donated or built in terms of successful companies” EA comes out ahead.
(And OpenAI gets another $80B, so if you count that then I think even the most aggressive definition of how much FTX defrauded is smaller. But obviously OAI’s EA credentials are dubious.)
Regarding $4B missing: adding in Anthropic gets another $4B on the EA side of the ledger, and founders pledge another $1B.
Well, I mean, I think making money off of building doomsday machines goes on the cost side of the ledger, but I do think it applies to the specific point I made above and I think that’s fair. Anthropic is quite successful at a scale that is not that incomparable to the size of the FTX fraud.
Yep that’s fair, there is some subjectivity here. I was hoping that the charges from SDNY would have a specific amount that Sam was alleged to have defrauded, but they don’t seem to.
Regarding $4B missing: adding in Anthropic gets another $4B on the EA side of the ledger, and founders pledge another $1B. The value produced by Anthropic is questionable, and maybe negative of course, but I think by the strict definition of “donated or built in terms of successful companies” EA comes out ahead.
(And OpenAI gets another $80B, so if you count that then I think even the most aggressive definition of how much FTX defrauded is smaller. But obviously OAI’s EA credentials are dubious.)
Well, I mean, I think making money off of building doomsday machines goes on the cost side of the ledger, but I do think it applies to the specific point I made above and I think that’s fair. Anthropic is quite successful at a scale that is not that incomparable to the size of the FTX fraud.
We have Wildeford’s Third Law: “Most >10 year forecasts are technically also AI forecasts”.
We need a law like “Most statements about the value of EA are technically also AI forecasts”.