We examined the effects of framing and order of presentation on professional philosophers’ judgments about a moral puzzle case (the “trolley problem”) and a version of the Tversky & Kahneman “Asian disease” scenario. Professional philosophers exhibited substantial framing effects and order effects, and were no less subject to such effects than was a comparison group of non-philosopher academic participants. Framing and order effects were not reduced by a forced delay during which participants were encouraged to consider “different variants of the scenario or different ways of describing the case”. Nor were framing and order effects lower among participants reporting familiarity with the trolley problem or with loss-aversion framing effects, nor among those reporting having had a stable opinion on the issues before participating the experiment, nor among those reporting expertise on the very issues in question. Thus, for these scenario types, neither framing effects nor order effects appear to be reduced even by high levels of academic expertise.
I thought the trolley experiment didn’t actually have a known best-case solution? I thought the point of it was to state that one human life is not always worth less than N other human lives. Where N>0.
Confused as to why we are evaluating a “test” for the test’s sake, and complaining about the test results when the only point of it was to make an analogy to real life weights.
I thought the trolley experiment didn’t actually have a known best-case solution
There is no “solution”, but the point of the study is “substantial framing effects and order effects”, that is, people gave different answers depending on how the same question was framed or what preceded it.
If I was offered the “save one family member vs 10 strangers I will never get to meet” or “save one stranger vs 10 family members” I would certainly have different answers. I wouldn’t find that unreasonable of anyone to care more for one thing than others.
I see what I did. Also note that framing includes, “save one family member, kill ten strangers” or “kill one family member or save ten strangers”, “kill one family member or kill ten strangers” vs “save one family member or save ten strangers”
Thanks for informing about the typo. LW doesn’t understand brackets in links, had to put a backlash in the closing bracket and embed the link in the text to get a working link.
Words can be very tricky. If you want to learn a more general lesson of where that mistake might have come from, you might find this series of posts interesting.
yes, its explained in the formatting help that a / is needed to symbolise where that symbol is not used as a formatting symbol.
Thanks for the link, my confusion (and mistake) sits in my memory which connected the word meanings to simpler concepts to make them easier to know and store. In fact—I was so sure that the confusion was with the situation and not with me; that I automatically asked before challenging my existing knowledge. I mean—its just framing right? :P
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I thought the trolley experiment didn’t actually have a known best-case solution? I thought the point of it was to state that one human life is not always worth less than N other human lives. Where N>0.
Confused as to why we are evaluating a “test” for the test’s sake, and complaining about the test results when the only point of it was to make an analogy to real life weights.
There is no “solution”, but the point of the study is “substantial framing effects and order effects”, that is, people gave different answers depending on how the same question was framed or what preceded it.
If I was offered the “save one family member vs 10 strangers I will never get to meet” or “save one stranger vs 10 family members” I would certainly have different answers. I wouldn’t find that unreasonable of anyone to care more for one thing than others.
That’s not framing and order effects.
An order effect would be whether you see a difference between “save one family member vs 10 strangers” and “save 10 strangers vs one family member”.
I see what I did. Also note that framing includes, “save one family member, kill ten strangers” or “kill one family member or save ten strangers”, “kill one family member or kill ten strangers” vs “save one family member or save ten strangers”
Thanks!
That’s really not what is meant by framing) in this context.
Thanks! I must have got confused with the words. The link has a typo but I worked out my mistake.
Thanks for informing about the typo. LW doesn’t understand brackets in links, had to put a backlash in the closing bracket and embed the link in the text to get a working link.
Words can be very tricky. If you want to learn a more general lesson of where that mistake might have come from, you might find this series of posts interesting.
yes, its explained in the formatting help that a / is needed to symbolise where that symbol is not used as a formatting symbol.
Thanks for the link, my confusion (and mistake) sits in my memory which connected the word meanings to simpler concepts to make them easier to know and store. In fact—I was so sure that the confusion was with the situation and not with me; that I automatically asked before challenging my existing knowledge. I mean—its just framing right? :P