Does anyone here wear makeup regularly? I’m considering starting, but I don’t know if it’s worth it. If it is, what sort of makeup makes sense as “light makeup”? Does that mean eyeshadow? Eyeliner? Something else?
I tend to use mascara mainly since it can be subtle or more dramatic and since I have glasses, it helps bring out my eyes behind them. Mascara is conveniently easy, not too many colors to choose from, not too much effort required to apply, and it generally looks good on everyone. I’ve found that my attractiveness increases significantly with just adding mascara, so I find it worthwhile. If there’s a feature you want to play up, it’s good to find a nice way to enhance it.
Light makeup, as far as I can tell, usually refers to a little mascara, a bb cream or light foundation, and maybe a bit of lipgloss or tinted chapstick.
I wear makeup regularly (I am a lady). “Light” makeup usually means natural-looking and easy to apply. The highest-yield stuff would be something to make your skin look smooth and even (foundation, tinted moisturizer or BB creme), something to make your lips pretty (gloss looks natural and is easy to apply although lipstick is longer-lasting and less sticky), and maybe a little eye makeup (this is easier to screw up but not really that hard; start with drugstore mascara and eyeliner pencil and consult Youtube if you want to take it any further). I’m happy to recommend specific products but a lot depends on your complexion.
Edit: Forgot to mention, if you have acne at all, spend money on a good concealer that matches you skin, Dermablend is the shit, this is probably worth it for gents as well as ladies
I’m going to second the thing about about acne and add a recommendation that if you have skin problems, see a dermatologist. They might be able to fix your problem and then you won’t need acne makeup.
My wife is very minimalist at it, and she is saying the basic rule is, she has a wider mouth and smaller eyes so she wears eye liner and eye shadow and no lipstick to balance their size, and she would do it the other way around if her features were proportioned the other way around. I suggested her foundation as I find the illusion of perfect complexion the most attractive part of make-up illusions but she told me it is not healthy for the pores and suchlike.
I don’t think this is a good data point, since the makeup they wear is explicitly designed to counteract visual artifacts (glare, unnatural-seeming skin tones, etc.) that are introduced by the camera. Thus, the makeup does not necessarily have a positive effect on people who see the movie stars in person.
This is a wonderful data point. It moves our model from “if you’re a man, don’t wear makeup” to “if you’re a man, don’t wear makeup unless you’re going to appear on camera, in which case, wear just enough to counteract visual artifacts.” I expect this to be a nontrivially better model for a significant amount of men here.
Perhaps I should express myself more precisely and say that no woman I know prefers a man who wears makeup seriously. Wearing full battle makeup for funsies is perfectly fine.
Is that an expressed preference or a revealed one?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the median woman would find a guy hotter when he’s wearing suitable makeup, but if she discovered that he was wearing makeup, she would dislike that and start to avoid him or whatever. Which might still mean that the median man should not typically wear makeup, but it’s less clear-cut than if the median women rates men as less attractive when they’re wearing any kind of makeup.
(It seems implausible to me that the makeup industry would have found no product at all that could make men look more attractive to the median woman.)
I’m wondering whether two situations should be distinguished—a man might be viewed more positively if he’s wearing a little foundation to make his skin look smoother, but more negatively if a woman touches his face and notices it.
This is definitely hypothetical. Anyone have actual information?
Is that an expressed preference or a revealed one?
Hm, revealed preference is hard to disentangle from other factors. Besides, men with makeup are not all that common outside of TV studios, Burning Man (and the like), and certain areas of town. Speaking of, I think the standard interpretation of makeup on a guy is that it’s a signal he is gay or, more generally, not hetero male.
I’ve recently seen expressed preference with respect to a particularly male kind of makeup—hair “thickener”, aka hair fiber spray to cover up a bald spot. That expressed preference was very negative.
Oh, and a “median woman” is not a particularly desirable target X-D
I think I saw a subject-blind study somewhere that indicated men prefer light makeup to no makeup despite their claims to the contrary.
Depends on what is meant by ‘prefer’. I prefer no makeup too, but not because it looks better. I prefer it because I see makeup as a minor kind of lying and I don’t like that. I value honesty. It doesn’t mean that I detect all lies. Or not be influenced by them.
I’m trying to read “flamboyant” cheritably but everying I try to imagine is horrible. The more the worse.
Artful facepainting might be different though.
ADDED: I realize that this argues againt my reasoning that it results from lying—as an obvious makeup is no lie. But then I also don’t like exaggerations and maybe this falls into a more general pattern? Hm, sounds suspiciously like rationalizations. Will have to introspect a bit on this.
Does anyone here wear makeup regularly? I’m considering starting, but I don’t know if it’s worth it. If it is, what sort of makeup makes sense as “light makeup”? Does that mean eyeshadow? Eyeliner? Something else?
I tend to use mascara mainly since it can be subtle or more dramatic and since I have glasses, it helps bring out my eyes behind them. Mascara is conveniently easy, not too many colors to choose from, not too much effort required to apply, and it generally looks good on everyone. I’ve found that my attractiveness increases significantly with just adding mascara, so I find it worthwhile. If there’s a feature you want to play up, it’s good to find a nice way to enhance it.
Light makeup, as far as I can tell, usually refers to a little mascara, a bb cream or light foundation, and maybe a bit of lipgloss or tinted chapstick.
I wear makeup regularly (I am a lady). “Light” makeup usually means natural-looking and easy to apply. The highest-yield stuff would be something to make your skin look smooth and even (foundation, tinted moisturizer or BB creme), something to make your lips pretty (gloss looks natural and is easy to apply although lipstick is longer-lasting and less sticky), and maybe a little eye makeup (this is easier to screw up but not really that hard; start with drugstore mascara and eyeliner pencil and consult Youtube if you want to take it any further). I’m happy to recommend specific products but a lot depends on your complexion.
Edit: Forgot to mention, if you have acne at all, spend money on a good concealer that matches you skin, Dermablend is the shit, this is probably worth it for gents as well as ladies
I’m going to second the thing about about acne and add a recommendation that if you have skin problems, see a dermatologist. They might be able to fix your problem and then you won’t need acne makeup.
My wife is very minimalist at it, and she is saying the basic rule is, she has a wider mouth and smaller eyes so she wears eye liner and eye shadow and no lipstick to balance their size, and she would do it the other way around if her features were proportioned the other way around. I suggested her foundation as I find the illusion of perfect complexion the most attractive part of make-up illusions but she told me it is not healthy for the pores and suchlike.
This answer here: http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-best-website-for-beauty-related-products Lead me to here: http://www.sephora.com/sephoratv/htfs-sephora-makeup.jsp
I think I saw a subject-blind study somewhere that indicated men prefer light makeup to no makeup despite their claims to the contrary.
Any data on whether women prefer men with light makeup?
Data: pretty much all male Hollywood stars wear (natural-looking) makeup whenever they appear on camera.
I don’t think this is a good data point, since the makeup they wear is explicitly designed to counteract visual artifacts (glare, unnatural-seeming skin tones, etc.) that are introduced by the camera. Thus, the makeup does not necessarily have a positive effect on people who see the movie stars in person.
This is a wonderful data point. It moves our model from “if you’re a man, don’t wear makeup” to “if you’re a man, don’t wear makeup unless you’re going to appear on camera, in which case, wear just enough to counteract visual artifacts.” I expect this to be a nontrivially better model for a significant amount of men here.
Anecdotally, I don’t know a single (hetero) woman who prefers men with any makeup.
Ask your female hetero friends if Tim Curry was hot in Rocky Horror.
Campy cult movies don’t count :-)
Perhaps I should express myself more precisely and say that no woman I know prefers a man who wears makeup seriously. Wearing full battle makeup for funsies is perfectly fine.
Is that an expressed preference or a revealed one?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the median woman would find a guy hotter when he’s wearing suitable makeup, but if she discovered that he was wearing makeup, she would dislike that and start to avoid him or whatever. Which might still mean that the median man should not typically wear makeup, but it’s less clear-cut than if the median women rates men as less attractive when they’re wearing any kind of makeup.
(It seems implausible to me that the makeup industry would have found no product at all that could make men look more attractive to the median woman.)
I’m wondering whether two situations should be distinguished—a man might be viewed more positively if he’s wearing a little foundation to make his skin look smoother, but more negatively if a woman touches his face and notices it.
This is definitely hypothetical. Anyone have actual information?
Hm, revealed preference is hard to disentangle from other factors. Besides, men with makeup are not all that common outside of TV studios, Burning Man (and the like), and certain areas of town. Speaking of, I think the standard interpretation of makeup on a guy is that it’s a signal he is gay or, more generally, not hetero male.
I’ve recently seen expressed preference with respect to a particularly male kind of makeup—hair “thickener”, aka hair fiber spray to cover up a bald spot. That expressed preference was very negative.
Oh, and a “median woman” is not a particularly desirable target X-D
Depends on what is meant by ‘prefer’. I prefer no makeup too, but not because it looks better. I prefer it because I see makeup as a minor kind of lying and I don’t like that. I value honesty. It doesn’t mean that I detect all lies. Or not be influenced by them.
How do you feel about flamboyant makeup which is obviously artificial?
I’m trying to read “flamboyant” cheritably but everying I try to imagine is horrible. The more the worse. Artful facepainting might be different though.
ADDED: I realize that this argues againt my reasoning that it results from lying—as an obvious makeup is no lie. But then I also don’t like exaggerations and maybe this falls into a more general pattern? Hm, sounds suspiciously like rationalizations. Will have to introspect a bit on this.