That makes sense, and does update me against public gatherings (but, I’m thinking of things on the timescale of a months to a year. I’m guessing it’ll get increasingly hard to keep people apart. I’m also thinking less in terms of groups of 60, and more more like groups of 2-5)
I was thinking of thresholds that were more like “at least 12 feet apart, maybe 20 feet”, with nobody touching any objects. (Also, I’m assuming this is all outdoors)
I was thinking of thresholds that were more like “at least 12 feet apart, maybe 20 feet”, with nobody touching any objects.
My point is that since 45 out of 60 people were infected and they were spaced out, the farthest person infected in that group must have been quite far from the source of the infection, and keeping a even longer distance to be safe is probably impractical for most indoor spaces.
ETA:
(Also, I’m assuming this is all outdoors)
Didn’t notice this part earlier. I would be much less worried outdoors where virus particles are more likely to disperse instead of hang around, but don’t have any quantitative answers to offer.
I suspect the inside issue is something that will eventually have to be addresses via ventilation and filtration (as in planes) and attention to just how the air flows seems important here. That probably doesn’t get us back to distances pre-COVID-19 but at least gets to some new workable normal. (Unless we’re giving up direct social interactions and go to pure virtual reality solutions).
Outside might still need some work I think. If you’re thinking not overly crowded settings not nearly as much to worry about. However, things like open air markets, rallies, large spectator sporting events outside or even tightly packed streets may still be a bit problematic. I think a lot there will depend on infection density at that point. I would expect some type of cloud to still emerge from the crowd of people that may remain localized in a lot of weather settings.
a) the sort of person who wasn’t that trustworthy in the first place and was probably going to start hanging out with friends within a few weeks even if official quarantines weren’t lifted, but who might follow basic precautions if they were spelled out clearly.
b) small high trust networks where everyone has been quarantining (and documenting their quarantine), nobody has been interacting with anyone outside the network, etc. (but, still with a margin of error added so that a single person who’s been exposed unknowingly doesn’t end up auto-infecting everyone)
That makes sense, and does update me against public gatherings (but, I’m thinking of things on the timescale of a months to a year. I’m guessing it’ll get increasingly hard to keep people apart. I’m also thinking less in terms of groups of 60, and more more like groups of 2-5)
I was thinking of thresholds that were more like “at least 12 feet apart, maybe 20 feet”, with nobody touching any objects. (Also, I’m assuming this is all outdoors)
My point is that since 45 out of 60 people were infected and they were spaced out, the farthest person infected in that group must have been quite far from the source of the infection, and keeping a even longer distance to be safe is probably impractical for most indoor spaces.
ETA:
Didn’t notice this part earlier. I would be much less worried outdoors where virus particles are more likely to disperse instead of hang around, but don’t have any quantitative answers to offer.
Ah, okay yes that makes sense.
I suspect the inside issue is something that will eventually have to be addresses via ventilation and filtration (as in planes) and attention to just how the air flows seems important here. That probably doesn’t get us back to distances pre-COVID-19 but at least gets to some new workable normal. (Unless we’re giving up direct social interactions and go to pure virtual reality solutions).
Outside might still need some work I think. If you’re thinking not overly crowded settings not nearly as much to worry about. However, things like open air markets, rallies, large spectator sporting events outside or even tightly packed streets may still be a bit problematic. I think a lot there will depend on infection density at that point. I would expect some type of cloud to still emerge from the crowd of people that may remain localized in a lot of weather settings.
I have roughly two use cases in mind here:
a) the sort of person who wasn’t that trustworthy in the first place and was probably going to start hanging out with friends within a few weeks even if official quarantines weren’t lifted, but who might follow basic precautions if they were spelled out clearly.
b) small high trust networks where everyone has been quarantining (and documenting their quarantine), nobody has been interacting with anyone outside the network, etc. (but, still with a margin of error added so that a single person who’s been exposed unknowingly doesn’t end up auto-infecting everyone)