What became clear to me was that it could be turtles all the way down. That if I’m being lied to, that perhaps the liars were lied to and came to see that as the appropriate way of getting people to do the things they “ought” to do. In fact, if you read the Old Testament of the Bible, lying for your belief system is quite highly valued. I didn’t bring that up here because I hadn’t read the Old testament at that point.
I guess my goal here was to recall what rejecting control by lies was like for me.
Where you quote the name “Yudkowski” and say “Why?”, are you objecting to my misspelling of Yudkowsky, or annoyed that I dropped his name?
Where you quote the name “Yudkowski” and say “Why?”, are you objecting to my misspelling of Yudkowsky, or annoyed that I dropped his name?
Objecting to the misspelling. It might have been an honest mistake in your case but it happens enough that I reckon it must be purposeful, and if it is, I don’t know why.
Your post was a good story, by the way. I’m just wary of reaching correct conclusions via potentially incorrect means. It might not apply in this case.
What became clear to me was that it could be turtles all the way down. That if I’m being lied to, that perhaps the liars were lied to and came to see that as the appropriate way of getting people to do the things they “ought” to do. In fact, if you read the Old Testament of the Bible, lying for your belief system is quite highly valued. I didn’t bring that up here because I hadn’t read the Old testament at that point.
I guess my goal here was to recall what rejecting control by lies was like for me.
Where you quote the name “Yudkowski” and say “Why?”, are you objecting to my misspelling of Yudkowsky, or annoyed that I dropped his name?
Objecting to the misspelling. It might have been an honest mistake in your case but it happens enough that I reckon it must be purposeful, and if it is, I don’t know why.
Your post was a good story, by the way. I’m just wary of reaching correct conclusions via potentially incorrect means. It might not apply in this case.
The misspelling was accidental—I have several friends with the -ski name ending and so I botched the spelling.
I did simplify my story. When I write about myself, I usually tend to go on WAAAAAY too long, so I tried to be succinct here.