Downvoted for politics—it’s hard to explore rationality on these topics, and I don’t think this audience is likely to have over-simplistic reasons for our beliefs. Give it 5 years and it may be a good topic for here.
Also, you need to at least acknowledge the belief that a fetus can be a moral patient and a virus can not as a VERY SIGNIFICANT difference between the two cases.
I could swear it was frontpaged when I wrote that, but now I’m only 80% sure that it was[1]. Anyway, I figured maybe auto-crossposted posts by high-karma LW posters might automatically get posted as Frontpaged rather than as Personal Blog.
Pardon the confusion. It was frontpaged, I saw your comment, then moved it back to personal blog. The thought didn’t occur to me that you would then be mildly gaslit about your comment!
And no, everything including crossposts get manually processed and frontpaged-or-not. Occasional simple errors make it through. Thx MondSemmel for the comment that pointed this one out.
you need to at least acknowledge the belief that a fetus can be a moral patient and a virus can not as a VERY SIGNIFICANT difference between the two cases
That there are very significant differences between the right to an abortion and the right not to be vaccinated is exactly why I’m writing this post: reducing arguments to just the importance of bodily autonomy misses that those differences matter a lot. See my first Q.
Given the disagreement with my comment, I seem to be in the minority, and I’m sure I’m digging deeper with this reply. I don’t think it just pattern-matches with politics, I think it’s primarily about politics. Replacing the examples with less-current ones, not just adding some decoys, would be necessary to fix it, IMO.
Or maybe not. “bodily autonomy” doesn’t seem like a coherent dimension to explore—it’s a mix of different things, most of which are interactions with others and with society, and combining them into this one idea seems politically motivated at it’s core.
Downvoted for politics—it’s hard to explore rationality on these topics, and I don’t think this audience is likely to have over-simplistic reasons for our beliefs. Give it 5 years and it may be a good topic for here.
Also, you need to at least acknowledge the belief that a fetus can be a moral patient and a virus can not as a VERY SIGNIFICANT difference between the two cases.
I think it is worth trying to explore discussing this topic on LW, and seeing if the discourse can remain reasonable on this site.
Having politics posts on LW is fine, but they mostly shouldn’t be frontpaged and instead remain personal blog posts.
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Personal Blogand is not taggedCuratedorFrontpage(more), so it’s not clear to me what you’d like to be different?I could swear it was frontpaged when I wrote that, but now I’m only 80% sure that it was[1]. Anyway, I figured maybe auto-crossposted posts by high-karma LW posters might automatically get posted as Frontpaged rather than as Personal Blog.
I welcome evidence both for and against the hypothesis that I hallucinated that.
Pardon the confusion. It was frontpaged, I saw your comment, then moved it back to personal blog. The thought didn’t occur to me that you would then be mildly gaslit about your comment!
And no, everything including crossposts get manually processed and frontpaged-or-not. Occasional simple errors make it through. Thx MondSemmel for the comment that pointed this one out.
That there are very significant differences between the right to an abortion and the right not to be vaccinated is exactly why I’m writing this post: reducing arguments to just the importance of bodily autonomy misses that those differences matter a lot. See my first
Q.I agree that the way it is right now pattern -matches with politics:
Short
Starts with a high-conflict position
Doesn’t (sufficiently) dissolve the question.
I think there should be more examples, not just Covid and abortion and more criteria. That should fix it.
Given the disagreement with my comment, I seem to be in the minority, and I’m sure I’m digging deeper with this reply. I don’t think it just pattern-matches with politics, I think it’s primarily about politics. Replacing the examples with less-current ones, not just adding some decoys, would be necessary to fix it, IMO.
Or maybe not. “bodily autonomy” doesn’t seem like a coherent dimension to explore—it’s a mix of different things, most of which are interactions with others and with society, and combining them into this one idea seems politically motivated at it’s core.