There is an expression (mostly in business): “take ownership of a problem”. If you take ownership of an issue, it is now yours—you’re responsible for it, it’s up to you to find ways to deal with it, fix it, keep working whatever needs to be working, etc. You cannot say “not my problem, somebody else will fix it” any more.
Actually, that’s mentioned everytime this comes up. Which is great, except when the problem is so large that the only person who could take responsibility for it is some kind of superman/woman.
That “one” need not be a single person. It could be a group, an organization.
One of the problems is that people who control the LW website are running it in pure maintenance mode. LW was put out to pasture—there have been no changes to functionality in ages.
Maybe it would be good if the control of LW would be handed over to someone who cares more about running it.
I never meet EY in person, so I don’t know to what extend he might be willing to hand LW over. It’s likely a conversation to be had private in person with him.
I could be wrong but I would estimate that changing control of LW is basically about convincing EY.
The last time I discussed this with Trike Apps, their position was that LW is owned by MIRI, and thus Nate Soares is the final authority. I nevertheless expect that convincing EY is a key component of any competent plan.
I predict there will be a in-person conversation about this in roughly a week.
Since it’s now been two weeks, I’m late for an update: many in-person conversations happened. There are a few follow-up ones to have online (at least one of which will have to wait until Burning Man is over), and then I’ll post about it here on LW.
And one person needs to take responsibility for the meta-task of creating and leading the group.
Actually, the usual start for such things is not a single person, but a conversation. Sometimes you need one leader, sometimes a few “founders” work well, and occasionally even a committee (gasp!) suffices.
One more rarely mentioned thing.
There is an expression (mostly in business): “take ownership of a problem”. If you take ownership of an issue, it is now yours—you’re responsible for it, it’s up to you to find ways to deal with it, fix it, keep working whatever needs to be working, etc. You cannot say “not my problem, somebody else will fix it” any more.
No one “owns” LW.
Actually, that’s mentioned everytime this comes up. Which is great, except when the problem is so large that the only person who could take responsibility for it is some kind of superman/woman.
That “one” need not be a single person. It could be a group, an organization.
One of the problems is that people who control the LW website are running it in pure maintenance mode. LW was put out to pasture—there have been no changes to functionality in ages.
Maybe it would be good if the control of LW would be handed over to someone who cares more about running it.
I never meet EY in person, so I don’t know to what extend he might be willing to hand LW over. It’s likely a conversation to be had private in person with him.
LW isn’t controlled by Eliezer, it’s controlled by MIRI.
From my perspective it’s hard to tell how their internal agreement is. Have you spoken to Eliezer or MIRI personally about who’s controlling LW?
No, but I know who owns the domain name and I rather doubt EY personally pays for hosting.
I think the hosting is still done by Trike Apps.
I could be wrong but I would estimate that changing control of LW is basically about convincing EY.
The last time I discussed this with Trike Apps, their position was that LW is owned by MIRI, and thus Nate Soares is the final authority. I nevertheless expect that convincing EY is a key component of any competent plan.
I predict there will be a in-person conversation about this in roughly a week.
Since it’s now been two weeks, I’m late for an update: many in-person conversations happened. There are a few follow-up ones to have online (at least one of which will have to wait until Burning Man is over), and then I’ll post about it here on LW.
And one person needs to take responsibility for the meta-task of creating and leading the group.
Actually, the usual start for such things is not a single person, but a conversation. Sometimes you need one leader, sometimes a few “founders” work well, and occasionally even a committee (gasp!) suffices.
Tyranny generally works faster than a democracy… Or oligarchy I guess in this case.
I don’t think “faster” is the overwhelming criterion in this case.
Agree. However, I did not post this to take ownership of a problem, but to facilitate someone who will.