Mostly agree—my gears-level model is the conversations listed tend to hit Limits to Legibility constraints, and marginal returns drop to very low.
For people interested in something like “Double Crux” on what’s called here “entrenched views”, in my experience what has some chance of working is getting as much understanding as possible in one mind, and then attempting to match the ontologies and intuitions. (I had some success in this and “Drexlerian” vs “MIRIesque” views)
Mostly agree—my gears-level model is the conversations listed tend to hit Limits to Legibility constraints, and marginal returns drop to very low.
For people interested in something like “Double Crux” on what’s called here “entrenched views”, in my experience what has some chance of working is getting as much understanding as possible in one mind, and then attempting to match the ontologies and intuitions. (I had some success in this and “Drexlerian” vs “MIRIesque” views)