I noticed that all posts for the last day and a half are still personal blogposts, even though many are more “Frontpage” kind of stuff. Is there a bug in the site, is it a new policy for what makes it to frontpage, or is it just that the moderation team didn’t have time to go through the post?
Thanks for commenting. So, the latest admin-UI is that we have decide which core tags to give a post before deciding whether to frontpage it, which is a trivial inconvenience, which leads to delays. At the minute I do care a fair bit about getting the core tags right, so I’m not sure what the best thing to do about this is.
Yeah, to be clear, I agree on both counts, see my reply to adam below about how long I think the frontpage decisions should take. I do think the tags are important so it’s been good to experiment with this, but it isn’t the right call to have delays of this length in general and I/the team should figure out a way to prevent the delays pretty soon.
Added: Actually, I think that as readers use tags more to filter their frontpage posts, it’ll be more important to many of them that a post is filtered in/out of their feed, than whether it was frontpaged efficiently. But I agree that for author experience, efficiency of frontpage is a big deal.
Okay, this makes sense. Personally, that’s slightly annoying because this means a post I wrote yesterday will probably be lost in the burst of posts pushed to Frontpage (as I assume it would be going to Frontpage), but I also value the tag system, so I can take a hit or two for that.
That being said, it doesn’t seem sustainable for you: the backlog keeps growing, and I assume the delays will too, resulting in posts pushed to Frontpage a long time after they were posted.
I just went through and tagged+frontpaged the 10 outstanding posts.
In general I think it’s necessary for at least 95% of posts to be frontpaged-or-not within 24 hours of being published, and I think we can get the median to be under 12 hours, and potentially much faster. I don’t actually have a number for that, maybe we should just put the average time for the past 14 days on the admin-UI to help us keep track.
I was wondering about this, too. (If the implicit Frontpaging queue is “stuck”, that gives me an incentive to delay publishing my new post, so that it doesn’t have to compete with a big burst of backlogged posts being Frontpaged at the same time.)
I noticed that all posts for the last day and a half are still personal blogposts, even though many are more “Frontpage” kind of stuff. Is there a bug in the site, is it a new policy for what makes it to frontpage, or is it just that the moderation team didn’t have time to go through the post?
Thanks for commenting. So, the latest admin-UI is that we have decide which core tags to give a post before deciding whether to frontpage it, which is a trivial inconvenience, which leads to delays. At the minute I do care a fair bit about getting the core tags right, so I’m not sure what the best thing to do about this is.
This seems kind of terrible? I expect authors and readers care more about new posts being published than about the tags being pristine.
Yeah, to be clear, I agree on both counts, see my reply to adam below about how long I think the frontpage decisions should take. I do think the tags are important so it’s been good to experiment with this, but it isn’t the right call to have delays of this length in general and I/the team should figure out a way to prevent the delays pretty soon.
Added: Actually, I think that as readers use tags more to filter their frontpage posts, it’ll be more important to many of them that a post is filtered in/out of their feed, than whether it was frontpaged efficiently. But I agree that for author experience, efficiency of frontpage is a big deal.
Okay, this makes sense. Personally, that’s slightly annoying because this means a post I wrote yesterday will probably be lost in the burst of posts pushed to Frontpage (as I assume it would be going to Frontpage), but I also value the tag system, so I can take a hit or two for that.
That being said, it doesn’t seem sustainable for you: the backlog keeps growing, and I assume the delays will too, resulting in posts pushed to Frontpage a long time after they were posted.
I just went through and tagged+frontpaged the 10 outstanding posts.
In general I think it’s necessary for at least 95% of posts to be frontpaged-or-not within 24 hours of being published, and I think we can get the median to be under 12 hours, and potentially much faster. I don’t actually have a number for that, maybe we should just put the average time for the past 14 days on the admin-UI to help us keep track.
Thanks! And I think the delay you mention fit with my intuition about this.
I was wondering about this, too. (If the implicit Frontpaging queue is “stuck”, that gives me an incentive to delay publishing my new post, so that it doesn’t have to compete with a big burst of backlogged posts being Frontpaged at the same time.)