Roland and Andy, I think you’re misreading this formulation of determinism. One may have the illusion/hallucination of being able to engage in deliberation, or relax. But the analogy is more like a kid thinking they’re playing a game that’s on autoplay mode. The experience of deliberating, the experience of relaxing, the “consequences” are all determined, even if they’re unknowable to the person having these experiences. I’m not saying this is the best model of reality, but at this stage of our knowledge it seems to me to be a plausible model of reality.
But the analogy is more like a kid thinking they’re playing a game that’s on autoplay mode.
No. In your analogy, what the kid does has no causal impact on what their character does in the game. In real life, what you(your brain) does is almost always the cause of what your body does. The two situations are not analogous. Remember, determinism does not mean you lack control over your decisions. Also remember, you just are your brain. There’s no separate “you” outside your brain that exists but lacks control because all your actions are caused by your brain instead.
Roland and Andy, I think you’re misreading this formulation of determinism. One may have the illusion/hallucination of being able to engage in deliberation, or relax. But the analogy is more like a kid thinking they’re playing a game that’s on autoplay mode. The experience of deliberating, the experience of relaxing, the “consequences” are all determined, even if they’re unknowable to the person having these experiences. I’m not saying this is the best model of reality, but at this stage of our knowledge it seems to me to be a plausible model of reality.
No. In your analogy, what the kid does has no causal impact on what their character does in the game. In real life, what you(your brain) does is almost always the cause of what your body does. The two situations are not analogous. Remember, determinism does not mean you lack control over your decisions. Also remember, you just are your brain. There’s no separate “you” outside your brain that exists but lacks control because all your actions are caused by your brain instead.